Skyrocketing murder rate in Philly; 11 killed in bloodbath weekend

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**"Public safety is the number one mission for government on all levels," Corbett said. "If we can't protect our citizens from crime; if we can't protect our citizens from illegal drugs, child predators and an assortment of other threats, our communities will not grow and our citizens will not prosper."

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<p><a href="http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I am not that cynical. I think people care. That's why you're seeing a lot of pressure for better gun laws right now. PA needs to do something soon or they are going to have a holocaust on their hands.</p>

<p>When it comes to these gang wars, I am reminded of what Henry Kissinger said during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s:</p>

<p>"It's a shame they both can't lose"</p>

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**they are going to have a holocaust on their hands.

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Interesting choice of word. What exactly are you saying?</p>

<p>I think he refers to magnitude, not the implications.</p>

<p>Unless these armed dogs have some sort of ulterior racist agenda...</p>

<p>I guess my question is how can shooting within a group be a such an event? Just my take on it. You live in the community, you won't report or divulge.....that does not qualify as holocaust.</p>

<p>Judging by how I've heard the term "holocaust" it means either</p>

<p>1) they're going to kill all the jews
2) the Enola Gay is going to drop little boy and/or fat man on philadelphia</p>

<p>West Philly is the home of the lost tribes of Judah?</p>

<p>I can never hear the words "Enola Gay" without thinking of either</p>

<p>1) nuke
2) granola
3) gay granola</p>

<p>It's only a poor choice of word in this case if it is capitalized (as in The Holocaust). There was only one Holocaust, it took place in Europe in the 1940s. Hundreds of people being mowed down in Philadelphia still counts as a holocaust of sorts.</p>

<p>being "mowed down" requires an automatic weapon, not a handgun. You are way over your hyperbole quota for the day.</p>

<p>Not buying it that shooting within a group qualifies. Now, if they were being shot by folks wanting to buy up the property to move in and redevelop.......then perhaps. Hedgefund murderous poaching? NOT.</p>

<p>Huh? Ever hear of Virginia Tech? Handguns are just as deadly if not moreso. Most of them are practically automatic and can fire hundreds of rounds in a few minutes. If they weren't that deadly you wouldn't have mass casualties like you're seeing right now.</p>

<p>"Mass casualties?"</p>

<p>I repeat, you are over your hyperbole quota for the day. Take 3 chill pills and 2 cyanide pills and do not post until tomorrow morning.</p>

<p>ahahahahahahahaha</p>

<p>Add a pork burrito to that mix. Carnitas and bam, be gone.</p>

<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=6T22Xadjms0%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://youtube.com/watch?v=6T22Xadjms0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Learn to duck and cover, guys
We've got mass execution problems</p>

<p>Burritos as big as your head. Dow soaring and the ghetto broiling.</p>

<p>It's a bad word choice even without a capital H - it reeks of hyperbole. The word means "completely burned". 400 murders a year in a city of 1.5 million, while certainly awful, do not threaten the complete destruction of any community. Most of those killed are very marginal members of society and their presence will not be missed except by their immediate families - in fact some of the victims are themselves "shooters" and as they are removed the problem may even be somewhat self-correcting. It sounds to me like you're an old fashioned liberal who is shocked by the lack of compassion in today's students but I guess we're suffering from compassion fatigue - it's hard to show compassion to those who refuse to help themselves. Even the victims own families obey the "no snitches" rule. Often the fatal arguments are not even about drug turf which would almost be worth fighting for but over some minor insult or disrespect. One thing that actually living near a ghetto community does is remove any idealized view you may have of the nobility of the poor. It's hard to see where protests by college students would fit into this picture.</p>

<p>There's always some impulse to "do something" when confronted with a "situation" like this but what exactly is it we should do? The political leaders are already well aware of the situation and are working on it as best they can within their very limited level of competency - they don't need protests to hold their feet to the fire, nor will such protests make the incompetents any better. </p>

<p>You suggest "better" gun laws. This is laughable - there are already enough guns in Philadelphia to last for decades and there's no hope of getting them all out of circulation. People who are willing to kill each other for the slightest insult or who sell crack cocaine for a living don't care about "gun laws" anyway.</p>

<p>Actually, Percy, PA has a huge NRA presence and as such their gun laws are not nearly as strong as certain states (states that have much lower murder rates). If PA cracked down on the guns, sure there would still be a few around, but you would definitely save lives.</p>