Small Little Chance

<h2>Cornell Engineering</h2>

<p>GPA: 4.0
ACT - 31
SAT - 2150</p>

<p>Taken 4 APs Since Senior
Taking 4 in Senior Year
Calc BC - 5; American History - 5; World History - 4; Physics B - 4</p>

<p>As in every class.
Good ECs.</p>

<p>Only reason I am not putting up a lot of information is cause I want the chance to be really only be based on the GPA, ACT, and SAT scores, as it is the ACT and SAT scores that I am worried about.</p>

<p>Well, ECs can carry a very strong influence on your chances, so you honestly can’t chance you thoroughly without them. But with the test score stats you have right now, GPA is obviously as high as it can, SAT/ACTs could be a tad higher (esp. for higher self selective engineering). I mean they’re fine, and should do you good. But having a 2200/32-33 would do you better. </p>

<p>I’ve seen people taking more APs, but, you should be fine.</p>

<p>Thanks Honorlions.
You really made my stomach stop feeling so weird.</p>

<p>Yeah, I have a lot of ECs but I was worried about my SAT and ACT score.
I don’t think I will retake the ACT, as I have around a 770, 730, and a 670 (M, W, R) to improve on for the SAT which should be easier (ACT was like 32, 32, 31, 28 and all cause of stupid mistakes).</p>

<p>Any suggestions to improve Critical Reading?
I’m trying out a software that improves one’s reading speed (while keeping comprehension percentage high, too).
I guess it’s just the questions that mess me up. :'(</p>

<p>I took as many APs as my schedule can fit. I’ll be sure to put up my full stats, and all the colleges I want to apply to, for you to look at later, when I take the last of my SATs and hopefully get 800s on at least two of the categories.</p>

<p>I know that all of the AP scores I have taken will get me credit at Cornell (even the 4s!) but do the admission people really look at them more vs. the ECs?
For example, say a student has a 5 on Physics B vs. me with a 4 and lots of computer work, etc. (working at the school as part of their tech staff, making software with a graduate student).
I keep on thinking that APs reflect the person but I am not a good standardized test taker - nerves, early morning, pressure - yet excel at school tests.</p>

<p>On the bright side, I looked at a graph showing students vs. me in applying to Cornell and getting in.
I was around the 80% mark (compared to the person who got a 98 overall in school and a 2350 SAT score which was the 100% mark) and there were a lot of people before me that got accepted (even someone with a 1850 SAT score and an 85 average).
Then again, I cannot say whether they were accepted at the Engineering school or something else.</p>

<p>Anyways, thanks again Honorlions.</p>

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It’s not all about test scores. Though I’m hoping ‘a lot of ECs’ doesn’t translate to being apart of 50 clubs, but rather ‘matured’ and accomplished ECs (leadership, several hundred volunteer hours, etc.). </p>

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Well you should take whatever you can improve upon more. Note that Cornell doesn’t take Writing into consideration, only CR and M. Though I’d think stupid mistakes can be quickly and efficiently cured with extra practice.</p>

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If the CD stuff works for you, than use it. The general CC consensus is that the only way to study for the SATs/ACTs is doing it on your own with books. Then again, being I’ve haven’t done that great on any more than 3/4s a full practice test I’ve taken so far =/</p>

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No, that EC is among the best ECs you can have. AP tests are a small fraction in a holisticly viewed application. If you can manage a letter of rec from a computer chief or whoever you work with that can explain your strong dedication and how hard it was to balance out school and computer work, than you’ll be a heck of a lot better off than someone with 10 AP 5’s. </p>

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Don’t worry about it, like I said, it’s all holistic. Your stats are pretty much in the clear, even for the more competitive engineering. But since you have engineering like ECs like being your school’s techie, they’ll know. I’ve heard Cornell’s schools really pick out self selective apps that actually display passion in whatever school/major they apply to (as people try to sneak in with high acceptance rate schools). </p>

<p>Just write good essays and continue to progress in your EC’s. Not sure of the rest of your EC’s, but you sound like you’re in good shoes.</p>

<p>reading is just practice practice practice
don’t waste money on any software program; it’s not going to get you anywhere</p>

<p>I would say you have an average chance. Your SAT scores are just average for this type of school, and you don’t really seem to have anything that sticks out between you and other candidates… Having a 4.0 is great, but a class rank would be better to help assess your chances. Best of luck</p>

<p>Hi all, back now.</p>

<p>Honorlions, thanks again.
Hopefully my ECs pull me up. I think I am pretty much set on Cornell now.</p>

<p>I will try and get a lot of practice tests and just do as many as I can.</p>

<p>As for class rank, that’s top 10 percent… Maybe even 5%? It depends on the classes (I have taken the most challenging ones) as I know of two kids that have 98 GPAs but only take the regular class requirements.</p>

<p>Alright, time to do something about this poor critical reading score…
Thanks again!</p>

<p>EDIT:
Oh, and those ECs are all leaderships (President, Secretary, Organizer) and tech involved.</p>

<p>If you’re class rank is top 5-10% you have a pretty good shot with the rest of your app</p>

<p>Hmm… I did forget to put this in:
I’m Indian, male (born in the USA, of course).
First generation American born Indian - maybe that will help? o.O</p>

<p>Now what about my chances?
Does it change it A LOT?</p>

<p>Hopefully not…</p>

<p>Alright, thanks for all the information so far!
I will be sure to put up my real stats later when I have everything sent and/or ready to be sent.</p>

<p>As this is my first choice college now, I am EDing it to have a better chance.</p>

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<p>No, it more or less hurts your chances. Us Indians, or Asians, are pretty well over-represented in higher education. And a good portion of Asian applicants happen to be first generation American born (ABCD’s, lol). The fact that you’re applying to CoE as an Asian also doesn’t do you much good either. It has a higher acceptance rate, but it’s also pretty self-selective. Nevertheless, ED does help, and you’ll ultimately be at the mercy of fate. </p>

<p>There’s always transferring in as a backup option : P</p>

<p>American Born Confused Desies (Desis?) we are…
It sucks. Yeah, I know.</p>

<p>But… Err… Does that change your original thoughts?
Have my chances just gone down the drain now? :'(</p>

<p>You need to raise your standardized test scores to be competitive at Cornell COE. </p>

<p>And FYI: That term you used, is slightly offensive.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Quote:
“And FYI: That term you used, is slightly offensive.”
(Not sure how to quote yet on this forum)</p>

<p>That was in response to Honorlions’ comment.
I did not mean it to be offensive in any way!</p>

<p>So much studying to do…
Gaaah. Cornell is really the school I want to get in to, so I will work at least 200% for it.</p>

<p>Again, thanks for all the comments!
The feedback was amazing and I hope people like you are there to talk to me in other threads.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t just give up on Cornell due to that. Though you definitely should improve your test scores. Race/ethnicity does affect admissions, but not that much. </p>

<p>To quote by the way, just do this

[quote]
whatever is being quite [ /quote] -> Just make sure there’s no space between [ and /quote] in the 2nd box thing.</p>

<p>Will do. Though, with school in the way, I guess I’m going to have to really up my antics.</p>

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I thought it was that, but I wouldn’t want to be the person who tried to quote and got it horribly wrong. :</p>