Smart kid/bombed her tests, now what?

<p>" .28 ACT…690 on the math sat and 650 on writing.*"</p>

<p>Is that bombing? Tanking? Seriously?</p>

<p>There should be lots of options! I think she should consider Jesuit schools ( Santa Clara, Loyola Marymount, Gonzaga in the West), but that might seem too much like Catholic.</p>

<p>PS I dont see the post about cc’s…am I missing it?</p>

<p>Erin’s dad, maybe not carleton then! Being from ny, I don’t know it well.</p>

<p>Shrink wrap, she won’t be doing Jesuit schools either. Thank you for the kind words!,</p>

<p>^ Not even Georgetown? At LMU you can hardly tell! Whatevs…oooo! Occidental!</p>

<p>Shrink, good point, thanks. Don’t know Occidental!</p>

<p>PS the poster who wrote about ccs apparently deleted the post. It said she should live home for family support and go to a cc – since college would be too difficult otherwise.</p>

<p>[Occidental</a> College | Occidental College | The Liberal Arts College in Los Angeles](<a href=“http://www.oxy.edu/]Occidental”>http://www.oxy.edu/)</p>

<p>Pres Obama went there for a bit…</p>

<p>I loved Oxy when visiting with my son last year.</p>

<p>If she will consider out of the NY/mid-Atl area, I’d also recommend Trinity University in TX.</p>

<p>Nicest folks I’ve ever met. Great facilities. Comfortable dorms as compared to the many mid-Atlantic colleges. Diverse student body. San Antonio was a nice city.</p>

<p>Isnt Trinity Catholic?</p>

<p>Answer; nope!</p>

<p>Unfortunately, classes in the sciences (and math) do tend to be more about performance on a couple of big exams, and less about day-to-day work</p>

<p>Not my experience at all. Science classes tended to be based on homework and lab reports in addition to exams, and math classes were definitely based at least partially on problem sets.</p>

<p>I applied to and visited one of the CTCL, Agnes Scott College, and had a number of friends who went there. It’s a great place. It’s small in student population - less than 1,000 students, so there’s lots of personal attention and interaction with professors. The campus is gorgeous and the dorm rooms are large and quite nice. Given that it’s a women’s college, they have a strong emphasis on placing women in the sciences, with majors in astrophysics, biochemistry & molecular biology, biology, chemistry, computer science, dual-degree engineering, environmental & sustainability studies, neuroscience, and physics. You don’t find many small LACs with a major in astrophysics or neuroscience, especially not women’s colleges! And they have a reputation for great financial aid. I had similar stats to your daughter (much lower weighted GPA - my weighted was close to her unweighted - but higher SAT scores) and I was offered a Deans Scholarship, which at the time covered full tuition. It doesn’t anymore, but it does cover most of tuition. They also have Presidential Scholarships that cover tuition, room, and board, as well as other scholarships that cover substantial portions of the CoA.</p>

<p>I’m also going to second the suggestion of some of the good SUNYs - Binghamton, Geneseo, New Paltz especially. Old Westbury may also be appealing, as it’s a small LAC type environment.</p>

<p>This is great info. She has always done well at lab work and projects, so good to know. I was also thinking maybe mt holyoke or smith as they dont look at sats!</p>

<p>Good Morning,</p>

<p>You should take a look at the list of test ( SAT/ACT) optional schools. Here is a link to the Fair Test site where you will find the list:</p>

<p>[SAT/ACT</a> Optional 4-Year Universities | FairTest](<a href=“http://www.fairtest.org/university/optional]SAT/ACT”>ACT/SAT Optional List - Fairtest)</p>

<p>Your daughter has many great strengths! Her test scores are far from horrible they are just more in the world of average if a top tier school,requiring SAT scores, is what she desires. There are some very, very good schools that do not require standardized tests as part of their application process. You will need to check the particular requirements at each individual school as some may need SAT suject tests in place of the SAT etc… </p>

<p>As you mention Carleton and Oberlin in a previous post some of the schools on the Fair Test list include - Bates, Bowdoin, Bryn Mawr,Colby, College of the Holy Cross, Dickinson,Gettysburg, Muhlenburg, Mount Holyoke,Pitzer, Union, Wake Forest.</p>

<p>Best of luck!</p>

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That adds up to 1850. If that’s a superscore, you will want to make sure the schools she is interested in use superscoring, as not everyone does.</p>

<p>We looked at, at least initially, Colorado College for my son – he also does not test that well, exam grades always lower than the rest of his course grades, testing ok but not brilliant (30 composite, 35 reading). Colorado block schedule was appealing because would allow him to focus on one subject.</p>

<p>Bryn Mawr and Holyoke good possibilities as well, especially BMC for a science-y kid. Also, consider Skidmore, Dickinson, maybe Rhodes (great for research-bound science kids), Hendrix, Kalamazoo. </p>

<p>I would be cautious about Carleton, Oberlin, Pomona – they are so competitive even among the highest end stat kids. We know a Pomona-bound student with 3.9 unweighted plus 35 composite ACT and great ECs; my son did not get into Oberlin, with 3.5 unweighted, most rigorous curriculum, 30 composite, writing and debate awards, sports, and other strong ECs etc. May be different for a science-bound female, but Carleton and Pomona are in the same tier as Amherst, Williams and Swarthmore. </p>

<p>Good luck,</p>

<p>What about Muhlenberg?
[Muhlenberg</a> College - GPA and Test Scores Needed for Admission to Muhlenberg College in Allentown, Pennsylvania](<a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/GPA-SAT-ACT-Graphs/ss/muhlenberg-college-admission-gpa-sat-act.htm]Muhlenberg”>Muhlenberg College: Acceptance Rate, SAT/ACT Scores, GPA)</p>

<p>You have to submit scores for Colorado College, but you can select from a variety of your tests to submit (any one quantitative, any verbal score and any third score.) The scores can be AP, SAT, Subject test, ACT or IB. However, admission is getting tougher every year. This year they had a 32% admit for EA/ED and about 14% regular decision for an overall rate of about 23%.</p>

<p>On my Colorado suggestion, we hadn’t gotten to the point of researching score submission, so that is interesting info. My thought was that block plan might be an environment in which the student could flourish by not managing 4 midterms and finals in the same week, semester after semester. </p>

<p>As the parent of a bright, curious, intellectual student who didn’t have the shiniest app but would succeed in any number of small, quirky LACs, we found the admissions process unforgiving. It used to be that Oberlin, Kenyon, Middlebury were places for smart kids but you didn’t have to have the perfect app. Nowawdays, those kids are more likely to find Kalamazoo, Beloit, Lawrence, Earlham a match.</p>

<p>If your daughter is interested in Smith, you should ask people on the Smith forum! I go to Smith and the people on the Smith board are always incredibly nice and willing to answer questions. You can also PM me if you have questions about Smith, although you should be forewarned that all of my knowledge about science/math classes is secondhand (I’m a Medieval Studies major.)</p>

<p>Thanks! We went up there and she actually liked mt holyoke more than smith…unfortunately we had a bad tour guide …</p>

<p>Only on CC would people think a 28 was low!!! But if she has trouble on tests in school too I would seriously consider the test optional schools - I would think that would set the culture for the school - how about Wake Forest?</p>

<p>Haha, thank you! Will definitely check them out.</p>