Smart kid not particularly motivated to succeed

<p>My son is bright and articulate. IQ 149. SAT scores V 780 M 600 W 760. He attends a private college prep hs and is a junior with a 2.96 GPA. He is interested in political science and history. He is limiting his view of colleges because he feels that his GPA would not be considered at NYU, Columbia, Franklin and Marshall etc. Any ideas?</p>

<p>Wooster maybe. Beloit, DePauw. Or Indiana U and some of the other good big schools (Iowa, Kansas, etc.)</p>

<p>Thanks Barrons</p>

<p>He actually is looking at DePauw.</p>

<p>Let's just say I can relate. Luckily back in my day a B average was not a kiss of death. I got A's in classes I liked and C's when i did not care much. The good thing about being smart but unmotivated is you can always change. It's pretty hard to "get smart". Call us the late bloomers.</p>

<p>Wow Iq149!!!!he Is Genius!!!
I Guess He Got That Sat Socre Without Prep...so...
Wow My Iq Is 114....</p>

<p>i recommend kansas. its actually a tendency of a lot of high iq kids to be lazy in school. look at einstein. im 178 and i have a lot of trouble doing my work as well</p>

<p>are you guys actually taking tests administered by knowledgable people or by the iq tests on the internet?</p>

<p>I have taken a few tests that say 140, but i cant trust the validity of these things.</p>

<p>Lazy is lazy, even if he is a genius he needs to learn to work or he will never get anywhere in life.</p>

<p>One of my favorite quotes:</p>

<p>"Intelligence without ambition is like a bird without wings."</p>

<p>AcceptedAlready</p>

<p>do you know who quote that thing???cause i like it and if i give it to my history teacher, i would get x-credit!!!</p>

<p>Salvador Dali said that.</p>

<p>i took the wechsler tests (WAIS III and the WISC IV as a kid). a psychologist proctored mine.</p>

<p>i got into an ivy from a fairly bad public high school with a gpa somewhere in the 3.4 range. what is important to get through on his applications is that he may be unmotivated in an unchallenging environment but is not lacking in ambition (theres a big difference). brilliant essays and strong, honest recommendations go far. nyu, and especially f&m, are not out of reach.</p>

<p>My son was tested by a psychologist for the gifted program in school. Thanks for the reply.</p>

<p>I got into some good schools with a GPA around 3.2 this year and a really high SAT. There is hope.</p>

<p>I think my IQ's around 140...I took this test on tickle.com and it showed up 131...but I did it in 20 minutes when it should have taken at least an hour, and didn't really try.</p>

<p>My GPA sucks though...3.55 Ugh :(</p>

<p>is tickle free?</p>

<p>Y e s.</p>

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<p>Like a duck?</p>

<p>This quote comes to mind:</p>

<p>"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent."</p>

<p>Unless your son can discover for himself the importance of hard work and determination, he might learn things the hard way. People make fun of others that are "workaholics" but in reality hard work def. makes up for, and even surpasses the "smartness" factor. I have friends that got 2400's on the SAT's but are going to community colleges because they failed to work hard. Now they are learning their lesson the hard way.</p>

<p>I hope I didn't sound too harsh. I'm in the same boat as your son. Not the IQ part (I got a 2310 SAT, GPA 3.35), but working hard is a new concept for me as well, and I am learning it the hard way.</p>

<p>So essentially, Intelligence without ambition is like a penguin.</p>