Smarter?

<p>Who's smarter, guys or girls? I'm sure most people will pick the safe (read: boring) route and say their equal, so I encourage people to take a stand on either side of the spectrum. Also, this isn't meant to offend anyone in anyway, just a little good natured debate. You don't need to be politically correct all the time :)</p>

<p>i think IQ tests have shown guys have the most high IQs and most low IQs whereas girls are have more middle to middle-smart IQs. However, IQ = smart is debatable.</p>

<p>The really correct answer is, what's the point of this? I can already see the direction that this thread's going to take and what type of responses that people will give.</p>

<p>"The really correct answer is, what's the point of this? I can already see the direction that this thread's going to take and what type of responses that people will give."</p>

<p>Yep, boring responses like the one your giving. I told you, leave your moral values at the door and stop taking it so damn seriously ( :) < implies no hard feelings)</p>

<p>Intelligence is meaningless in itself. How do you measure intelligence? IQ tests? Memory challenges? </p>

<p>The male/female divide for intelligence is questionable, and in my opinion non-existent. </p>

<p>Any differences that occur are due to different environmental conditions, different social attitudes, personality, and personal preference.</p>

<p>i'm just gonna say that girls are smarter in general, but the male sex seem to have more of those who are just truly intelligent. it's just what i see from school.</p>

<p>"i'm just gonna say that girls are smarter in general, but the male sex seem to have more of those who are just truly intelligent. it's just what i see from school."</p>

<p>girls=more knowledgable in school subjects</p>

<p>guys=more intelligent (we're lazy :))</p>

<p>Is that what you meant?</p>

<p>my grandpa teaches cognitive science, and this is what he told me. he said that in men, the connections between the two sides of the brain are very disorganized but in women the two sides of the brain are perfectly connected. think of a series of rickety bridges versus a highway. so women end up being better at analyzing complex problems because the electrical impulses are moving throughout the brain more easily(thanks to the highway). </p>

<p>but he also says that the highway is more predictable than the rickety bridge. sometimes the rickety bridge breaks and crazy things happen in the male brain. good examples include the theory of relativity, newton, da vinci, and mathematical advancements. bad examples include hitler, columbine, serial killers, and higher male suicide rates.</p>

<p>Ah, ok, but before we begin, we need to come up with a cohesive definition for intelligence and smartness and whatnot.</p>

<p>If we just stick to common operational definitions then I think guys have edged out girls on average on IQ tests, lol, so no debate there (though new studies may have unearthed different results, so I dunno, lol, and I don't care enough to check).</p>

<p>I don't particularly care to promote any sort of imaginary egalitarianism between the sexes if none exists, but we first need to establish what it is that we're comparing and whether or not there is any sort of discrepancy, lol. Any correlation wouldn't at all necessarily imply causation and the nature/nurture problem would render the results moot, but whatever, haha...</p>

<p>Terrible thread.</p>

<p>I think intelligence can be reflected somewhat on IQ tests, along with drawing inferences in general, solving puzzles, and reacting in situations that neccesitate common sense. Common sense, I think, is one of the best indicators of intelligence. That, and making judgements.</p>

<p>At any rate, I've heard that girls tend to be better at English and Foreign Language while guys tend to be better at math and science.</p>

<p>Let me also say, for the record, that I see no practical use in English from my age onwards. I hate the subject with a fiery passion. Drawing inferences and making assumptions on what the author's meaning is behind the poem,story,etc. bores the hell out of me. I have sufficient english skills to get by on life as it is (as a premed major :)).</p>

<p>I think it depends on the area of study you're talking about. I think that a number of tests have shown that guys are better with mathematics and science related things, whereas girls are better at creative and imaginative things. </p>

<p>However, it really just depends on the person. You can't just say guys are smarter or girls are smarter. The fact is, there are a lot of really smart people and even more really stupid people from both genders. Not to mention, intelligence is a made up type of thing that is measured by the society that one is in. Who is smarter? The person who can take apart an engine and put it back together with a blindfold on, or the person who can deal with math equations that are a page long? Well, there really is no answer... because it is likely that neither of them could perform the other's ability to any reasonable extent. I guess what I'm trying to say is that there is no completely objective standard of intelligence, so it's impossible to really know for sure.
Also, people are talented at different things... my best math score on the SAT was a 580, but I have an 11 on the essay. So to say one person is smarter than someone else is really hard to prove. </p>

<p>Then again, one could make the argument that some areas of intelligence are really just "knowledge," and some people are just blessed with pure intelligence. And I can see that side of the argument too. But to sum it up, I think that it is an age old question that will continue to plague the playgrounds of schools and parks across the world for the rest of our existence, and it will never be answered. </p>

<p>With that said... I'm convinced that guys are better drivers than girls! There.... I said it.</p>

<p>I believe that both sexes have positives and negatives in the case of intelligence, but just for your personal knowledge:</p>

<p>Galileo Galilei: Galileo was a true Renaissance man, excelling at many different endeavors, including lute playing and painting
Thomas Jefferson: Jefferson, the third President of the United States, was "the walking, talking embodiment of the Enlightenment, a polymath whose list of achievements is as long as it is incredibly varied."
Gottfried Leibniz: Calculus
Isaac Newton: English physicist, mathematician, astronomer, theologian, natural philosopher and alchemist. </p>

<p>Others...: Renaissance: Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Buonarroti, Petrarch, Vasco de Gama, Leibniz, Newton, Machiavelli, Copernicus, Francis Bacon, Descartes, Raphael, Brunelleschi, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Donatello, Haydn, Tchaichovsky, Kepler, Brahe, Gauss, Taylor, Riemann, LaPlace, Bernoulli</p>

<p>Rome/Greece: Alexander the Great, Cicero, Virgil, Aristotle, Homer, Plato, Jesus Christ, Adam, Moses, Noah, Ptolemy, Akbar the Great, Archimedes, Euclid</p>

<p>Asia: Confucius, Shi-Huang-Ti, Lao-Tzu, Siddhartha Gautama Buddha, Bin Laden</p>

<p>England/America: Shakespeare, Henry the 8th, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Albert Einstein, Watson + Crick, Stephen Hawking, Lewis and Clark, Martin Luther King, Obama, 007, Kobe Bryant</p>

<p>Europe: Dalton, Darwin, Edison, Watt, Ampere, Fahrenheit, Celsius, Kelvin, Joule, Graham, Heisenberg, Scroodinger, Hitler, Napoleon, Tsar Nicholas, Stalin, Marx, Engels, Nietzche, Columbus, Pizarro, Cortez, Diaz, Magellan, Drake, Hudson</p>

<p>Women: Marie Curie, Hatshepsut, Queen Elizabeth, Hillary Clinton, Rosalind Franklin,
Please add to this list.</p>

<p>Wait, one more thing lol. </p>

<p>I think part of it is based on popular culture and what people expect of you. Who do girls have in popular culture to live up to? Paris Hilton? Lindsey Lohan? Brittany Spears? When those are some of the most famous people on the planet, girls don't exactly get a good rep or a good target to aim for. </p>

<p>But in general, people almost never live up to their full potential, or utilize the intelligence they posses.</p>

<p>I feel the need to clear up a few points here for clarification to deduce the points that keeps getting brought up. </p>

<p>Decide the basis of a person's intelligence based on how our society is. I realize there is no all-encompassing definition, just go by the general standard (einstein, da vinci, etc.)</p>

<p>We all know there are both smart guys and girls as well as dumb guys and girls. Stop posting this.</p>

<p>Galileo Galilei: Galileo was a true Renaissance man, excelling at many different endeavors, including lute playing and painting
Thomas Jefferson: Jefferson, the third President of the United States, was "the walking, talking embodiment of the Enlightenment, a polymath whose list of achievements is as long as it is incredibly varied."
Gottfried Leibniz: Calculus
Isaac Newton: English physicist, mathematician, astronomer, theologian, natural philosopher and alchemist. </p>

<p>Others...: Renaissance: Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Buonarroti, Petrarch, Vasco de Gama, Leibniz, Newton, Machiavelli, Copernicus, Francis Bacon, Descartes, Raphael, Brunelleschi, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Donatello, Haydn, Tchaichovsky, Kepler, Brahe, Gauss, Taylor, Riemann, LaPlace, Bernoulli</p>

<p>Rome/Greece: Alexander the Great, Cicero, Virgil, Aristotle, Homer, Plato, Jesus Christ, Adam, Moses, Noah, Ptolemy, Akbar the Great, Archimedes, Euclid,</p>

<p>Asia: Confucius, Shi-Huang-Ti, Lao-Tzu, Siddhartha Gautama Buddha, Bin Laden</p>

<p>England/America: Shakespeare, Henry the 8th, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Albert Einstein, Watson + Crick, Stephen Hawking, Lewis and Clark, Martin Luther King, Obama, 007, Kobe Bryant</p>

<p>Europe: Dalton, Darwin, Edison, Watt, Ampere, Fahrenheit, Celsius, Kelvin, Joule, Graham, Heisenberg, Scroodinger, Hitler, Napoleon, Tsar Nicholas, Stalin, Marx, Engels, Nietzche, Columbus, Pizarro, Cortez, Diaz, Magellan, Drake, Hudson</p>

<p>Women: Marie Curie, Hatshepsut, Queen Elizabeth, Hillary Clinton, Rosalind Franklin,
Please add to this list.</p>

<p>Additions: Julius Caesar, Thomas Aquinas, Sofia Kovalevskaya, Isaac Asimov, that's all I can think of off the top of my head</p>

<p>^ tomjonesistheman, I'm not sure what your point is. Making a list of male accomplishments versus female accomplishments is not going to prove anything, because for hundreds of years women were prevented from getting an education and, if they did, doing anything with it, and, if they did, getting any credit for doing anything.</p>

<p>Well I wasn't trying to make any point actually..but I most certainly hope that that prevention is not going to change. Make my life easier.</p>

<p>lol WE ARE SERIOUSLY HAVING THIS DISCUSSION???? aahaha.</p>