So I got a warning letter for a B- in AP Calc...

<p>you got into Yale. what a woeful day :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Yeah... and about talking to your teacher and asking for extra credit like some of you said..</p>

<p>I just went up to him today and told him about the email from Yale, warning me about my grade in his class.</p>

<p>He laughed and said "That's awesome."</p>

<p>Then he left. That's it.</p>

<p>You guys must have really nice teachers!! Unfortunately I can't say the same here...</p>

<p>I have a feeling this can't be real. I mean, a B-?!?! Who sent you the email? Tell them to shove it.</p>

<p>Maybe tell your teacher to shove it after your first semester there....What a crapbag.</p>

<p>Feel fortunate that you were given the warning and have the opportunity to fix your grade before Yale chooses to take action. </p>

<p>Just for reference, not all seniors develop senioritis. Many continue to work just as hard as they had before because their were not just trying to get grades just to get into a college.</p>

<p>Don't bash the teacher or the Adcom, crack the books. It's in your court.</p>

<p>shrek, way to increase your admissions odds :) </p>

<p>smoda is right. Slacking in senior year screams "I don't have any academic integrity. Pick someone else."</p>

<p>Wow that is shocking. I still stand by my belief that Yale only defers people who really mess up (As to Cs, etc.) Because my school has always been open about discussing past seniors and there have been some insane senioritis cases that went unpunished.</p>

<p>Okay, I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding.</p>

<p>First of all, I DO NOT have senioritis. Besides the B-, the rest of my grades were 4 A+'s and 2 A's in other challenging courses. I am in no way defending my position with "slacking because it's my senior year," I merely said that I took a hit in Calculus by paying more attention to college applications during the first semester. There was no laziness; most nights I was up until twelve doing applications and writing essays. I only brought up senioritis because some people were acting as though no early admits got B's, and that's just not true. When I got my congratulations email, in fact, the admissions officer said, and I quote, "feel free to relax a little now (B's are okay, no C's though)." Since I didn't get "B's" (multiples) I just got one among A's and A+'s, I'm just surprised. Which brings me to my next point:</p>

<p>I am NOT complaining!! Nor am I bashing my teacher or the adcom (in fact, I like both very much. I only said one (the teacher) is kind of a jerk. But he is all the time, that has nothing to do with this situation.) </p>

<p>The whole point of this post was NOT to defend senioritis or whine and complain!</p>

<p>The POINT was to warn other early admits to avoid senioritis and not to listen to those who assure them that only D's and F's are bad news to the adcoms, because I asked about my B- on CC before the mid-report was sent, and everyone kept assuring me that a B was completely fine! Well, it wasn't. You may not get a letter like I did, but just DON'T RELAX YET, and keep up your grades! </p>

<p>That's all I'm trying to say. To others, please stop accusing me of senioritis or implying that I'm whining or acting like it's not my fault, because neither is the case. Thank you. </p>

<p>P.S. I should add that the email was hardly "official" or tough... he was just genuinely concerned and added that I shouldn't let my grade drop any further. Which I know is not going to happen, because I'm doing SO much better without worrying about apps this semester! I have an A- now :) and hopefully I can bring it up to an A.</p>

<p>I think it is in context of your school. One of my teachers wants to give me a bad grade because he genuinely does not want me to go to a good school. He did not go to a good school for HS, college, and the other college he transferred to, then for grad school. </p>

<p>He talks too much and just wants to give me a bad grade so that I either qualify for a good school or no school at all. You think your teachers are mean, mine is sinister. I do not like him, and he takes delight in giving me a bad grade. We wil see when that happens.</p>

<p>Maybe they've noticed lots of ED admits slipping? and they're worried that portends more slippage?</p>

<p>This year is stressful. Our class has a lot of students too. Sad that there has to be a lot of worry.</p>

<p>yeah bluewhite, I get what you mean about some teachers being less-than-thrilled about their students making it to an ivy school. </p>

<p>It's not a big deal to me. It's up to them if they want to say congrats or just ignore it. Sometimes I like when they ignore it, because then they treat me the same as always and don't try to give me special attention. </p>

<p>But bluewhite, if they're actually being MEAN to you, or being tougher about your grade just to hold you back, well that's just wrong! You can talk to your counselor or principal if you can prove he's grading you unfairly (would be easier if you have him for a clear cut subject like math, as opposed to English or something where the grading is more arbitrary.)</p>

<p>Pink – Sorry you were offended by my conclusion but two of your posts from this thread certainly would lead a reader to conclude senioritis. Then also you mentioned your own senioritis manifesting all they way back in December.</p>

<p>In your initial post, you imply that you thought that anything over a C was OK as well as use the term senioritis:
“I got a warning letter (email, actually) just for a B- in AP Calculus! I was a little surprised... I knew that a C is cause for some worry, but I thought that once you got in the "B" range you'd be okay. …………………</p>

<p>Just throwing this out there for everyone... don't let senioritis kick in, don't let your grades fall, and DON'T listen to the people who say that Yale only cares about D's and F's, because they care about a whole lot more than that for their admitted students!”</p>

<p>In your third post, you talk about senior grade slippage as being common (implying OK) and you basically state that “I … let myself fall behind in class. The class took a backseat….”:
“I feel compelled to remind this person that it's pretty common for seniors to let their grades slip a little after being accepted, and that adcoms completely understand that... Not that it's an excuse, but I think that if I still was trying to get into Yale, I wouldn't have let myself fall behind at all in class. It's just that the class took a back seat in my stress during application season and then my excitement over Yale.”</p>

<p>Your post on 12/22 mentions your “senioritis”:
“I'm experiencing most of these symptoms of P.A.S (senioritis, etc) as well as something else that's a little funny…….”</p>

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<p>Also, a reason for why Yale may be calling you about a B- is that you have stated that you are a Questbridge Match which means that they are giving you a full boat w/ no loans etc for a 4 year degree from Yale. That is a lot of money they have invested in you.</p>

<p>Lastly, if you are a Questbridge match, why were you discussing your Yale “likely letter” in January. If you are a Questbrdge match and accepted in December, why would you be discussing a likely letter in January.</p>

<p>sorry smoda, you're right it DID seem like that. I guess I was trying to argue both sides at once. I personally don't feel like I have senioritis, yet I was still using it as an extra defense. As in "even though I didn't have senioritis, I COULD have" type thing. But that's not how I meant it. Sorry for that. </p>

<p>Yeah, it might have to do with Questbridge. Although I dont know what you mean about talking about a likely letter...? Questbridge matches recieve likely letters, but I don't remember discussing it. </p>

<p>Thanks for your input, but no I wasn't offended just setting things straight.</p>

<p>Pink - I'm sure that all will end well. You said above that your grades in that class have improved and Yale would not have admitted you in the first place if they were not interested in you. </p>

<p>My confusion about a likely letter was the comment you made back in January:
"I'm worried about this, too. I also received a likely letter, and on my Midyear Report I'm getting one B- in AP Calculus (I'm usually never one to blame the teacher but... I swear he's crazy!)"</p>

<p>I thought likely letters were typically given to regular decision kids with unusual academic or athletics. I did not realize that they were associated with Questbridge. I thought that with Questbridge you received your match/admission and that was it.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>You know- that brings up an interesting subject. I definitely have a few teachers that would be appalled to know I get accepted to an ivy.</p>

<p>@ smoda61:</p>

<p>Thanks for understanding! Yeah, this was just kind of a wake-up call, I don't think it was anything serious. Like I said before, I had A's and A+'s in my other classes, so if I can just bring the Calc grade up (which I'm sure I can, because I'm not worried about college anymore and plus a lot of the second semester is just review for the AP exam anyway) then I should be okay. </p>

<p>And yeah, it's weird about Questbridge; we get likely letters but they are technically "acceptances"... it's a little confusing. </p>

<p>I have a question though... due to Yale's new financial aid policy, A LOT of students (who were not associated with Questbridge) are getting a full ride just like Questbridge kids are. Really, Questbridge is more of a way to attract kids from lower socioeconomic backgrounds to just apply in the first place (because they tend to have misconceptions about expensive schools). I mean, if I had applied regularly, I would have gotten accepted with the SAME financial aid package as I got through Questbridge. The only difference is that without Questbridge, I never would have applied in the first place, because I never thought that ivy league schools were within my reach (no one in my school ever applies.)</p>

<p>The point is, you implied that Yale will be tougher on Questbridge admits because they have so much invested in them... but do you think this applies to ALL of the people who are getting full or very substantial financial aid plans (which is a ton of the incoming class)? Or do think the Questbridge kids will have a rougher time than the other kids on financial aid, even though it's technically the same thing? </p>

<p>@ Mal77:</p>

<p>Really? Elaborate! I want to hear about it, because sometimes I feel bad, and I'm afraid I'm just imagining it when I think some teachers aren't that happy for me, and being unfair to them (even though I really think it's true.)</p>

<p>pink - I may be wrong but my understanding of financial aid is that it is made up of grant money, work study and loans. So loans you would have to pay back, work is work and then grant money is basically free. Questbridge I thought was one big grant for the whole thing. No pay back or work study. Assuming that what I am thinking is correct, then Yale would be spending a lot more money on your education then one with a FA package.</p>

<p>If I am wrong, I hope that someone will correct my information. My kids have never qualified for FA so I really do not know all its specifics. I therefore apologize in advance for any false statements I may be making.</p>

<p>smoda:</p>

<p>it's okay, there's a lot changing with Yale's financial aid policy so it's hard to be really up to date. I think you're a little off, but I'll point out what I know right here:</p>

<p>first, the Questbridge-Yale scholarship IS broken up along those lines, althought the Yale grant covers most of it. We still do, however, have the same amount of work-study and we also have to pay 25% of total student savings (which I'm pretty sure is exactly what everyone else has to pay.)</p>

<p>Partner</a> School: Yale University - 2008 College Match Scholarship Package</p>

<p>also, Yale's new financial aid policy is that by the year 2008-09, NO STUDENT will have to take out a loan to afford their school. That means that either Yale determines that your parents can afford all of it, some of it, or none of it. The grant, work-study, and student savings cover the rest. </p>

<p>So, really, there is honestly not a big difference between Questbridge and just regular kids on full financial aid. </p>

<p>If my information is incorrect, anyone, please correct me (like I said, it's hard to keep track), but I'm pretty sure I've got it.</p>

<p>So... do you think Questbridge kids will have it rougher just because they're "Questbridge", even though the packages are so similar? I mean, I'm sure there are <em>slight</em> differences, but in the grand scope of things, it's not like Yale is investing so much more in Questbridge kids than in others on financial aid.</p>

<p>Pink - Very interesting. I had no idea that the Questbridge was anything other than a full ride, basically like a full cost merit scholarship.</p>

<p>As for if Questbridge having it rougher, it would only be speculation. I made the comment earlier about why Yale may have contacted you about B- thinking that maybe there was some cause and effect there. It could be that Questbridge brought it on. It may be that you have a very hands-on Adcom. Maybe everyone that gets a B- gets a letter (I doubt this one). Whether Questbridge is the cause or not, Q is a fabulous opportunity for anyone that gets it. And with Yale beign non-binding, should you have reservations later, you still have the option of declining. As for Q and FA packages being similar, you will never know if during the RA pool and it's 20+ thousand applications you would have gotten that same acceptance.</p>

<p>Thank you helping me to understand more about how FA and Q are structured.</p>

<p>Enjoy your good fortune! :)</p>