So I got wind of a little rumor here at Cornell...

<p>...that as of 2010, all schools within Cornell university will be privately endowed. Bye bye New York State aid. </p>

<p>I first heard this from one of my friends, thought it was a little weird.</p>

<p>Then, I heard it again today from another friend whose dad said it was going to happen. </p>

<p>Anybody else hear about this? </p>

<p>I guess the reasons were that Cornell wants the state-assisted colleges to attract more out of state applicants. It's also an aim to increase the selectivity of the colleges. I'll have to do a little bit of research on this. </p>

<p>Until then, may the discussion begin...</p>

<p>um that WOULD BE AWESOME. THIS NYS stuff is GARBAGE, absolute GARBAGE, it tottally hurts cornell in every which way.</p>

<p>maybe then...maybe then...people won't think Cornell is part of SUNY...just maybe</p>

<p>well, it isn't technically part of it, but those schools receive reduced tuition for in-state students b/c new york state subsidizes them. If it was, you would graduate with a degree from Suny Cornell. That is not the case. It is all cornell university. But the whole deal with transfers and the state supported schools is ridiculous, b/c they have articulate agreements.</p>

<p>thank goodness</p>

<p>so when is this happening....</p>

<p>and it makes perfect sense b/c remmeber that cornell announced it is going to allow students to apply to multiple schools, and now that makes sense.</p>

<p>but whats going to happen with its land grant status, some school has to have that status in new york</p>

<p>MIT is a private school, but it is still (I believe) a land-grant university.</p>

<p>Being a NYS resident in the ag school...I'd hate to see this happen. I'm getting a great deal in tuition...and even though I'll be long gone (or in vet school here) by 2010, it's going to be a shame if NYS residents won't be able to enjoy this much longer.</p>

<p>I guess from a prestige point of view it's considered a "good" change...but honestly, once you're in here no one gives a rat's behind whether the school you're in is a land grant school or not.</p>

<p>My opinion is with rakem. I mean yeah prestige blah blah blah, but what about those new york residents? I mean if I lived in NY and I was applying to the ag school, I'd be ticked off!</p>

<p>um...idk about that dude. I am not speaking for myself, but some ppl here hold that in and if your around here long enough, you will hear comments. I particularly would never make a comment like that to a person here.</p>

<p>well, Cornell wants to diversify the student body.</p>

<p>Over 50% of ILR is from the greater new york city area. More often than not, you could pull any student from any ILR class, ask them what's it's like in Long Island, and they'd tell you exactly what it's like and what part they're from. I get excited to hear about students in ILR from Kentucky, Conn, and california. Even though i'm from New york state myself, i fully support the decision. Also, regarding the tuition break, i dont get any financial aid besides the tuition break. In at meeting with the financial aid office, they said more likely than not i would get aid if i wasn't in a state-endowed college. So, i'm assuming that although you would lose the tuition break, you'd get more financial aid to compensate. </p>

<p>And once again, no big announcement has been made. It could be a completely coincidental rumor, but i hope not!</p>

<p>it better not be a rumor, i highly doubt it.</p>

<p>that's a good point about the apply for admissions to multiple colleges. Though you already told me in PM, it would be another big step in making Cornell a much more centralized/unified campus. A smart step, IMO.</p>

<p>I am a NYS resident and applying to ILR. I agree with the move towards privatization. Though I feel confident that I would have an equal shot at any school within Cornell, I would not be opposed to a more competitive applicant pool at ILR (simply because I am applying to that school, but I see the benefits all around). I would welcome the change, and I feel that if the Cornell board has made the choice, they must also have more reasons than simply the competitive nature of the application process. There must be a reason or reasons beyond the scope of the 3rd party which will most certainly be presented with an official announcement; for this reason, I am intrigued by the (possible) change and what will (could) go with it.</p>

<p>imagine this is just an unfounded rumor, like omg, WOW, would that be annoying. However, i really think this one is true simply b/c of their recent move to "make cornell more centralized."</p>

<p>How about the tuition issue? Let's say with the Class of 2010, will they have to pay the private school price in 2010? Major issue!</p>

<p>No... I believe they already have a policy about tuition raises in the state funded schools which restricts that. I could be wrong, but I believe I read that somewhere in my obsessive divulgences into the Cornell website.</p>

<p>I haven't heard anything about this, but it would be nice if Cornell would let us know if it's true, since I'm in CALS and am going to transfer to Arts and Sciences, so I can have more options, if they screw with my tuition. </p>

<p>I don't really care about all the prestige complaints, I'm confident that I could have been accepted to Arts + Sciences with my stats, you aren't any better than people in the state grant schools. The reason there are so many New Yorkers is because the applicant pool is overwhelmingly from New York, not because it's easier to get in and we have lower stats or some bs. </p>

<p>Btw, bball, have you decided where you're transferring? ;)</p>

<p>um, yeah, my first choice is U of Pennsylvania and second is Brown and Columbia is in the mix somewhere</p>

<p>if those fail, i am confident U_Chicago will take me back</p>