<p>I went to <a href="http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/faq/ap.html%5B/url%5D">http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/faq/ap.html</a> and saw that I'll have about 50.5 units (assuming I pass all of the 14 AP Tests that matter).</p>
<p>What's the graduation requirements for Cal? Think I'll be able to just enter as a sophomore?</p>
<p>Graduation is 120 units; I'll be coming in with 67 units, so I'm in a similar situation. I'm trying to figure out when class standing is determined-- whether or not we'll be classified as freshman the first semester, and when that classification would change. I've e-mailed the school to ask this question, along with a few others, but I have yet to receive a response. If you want to try your own luck with asking, pm me and I'll tell you the appropriate address to contact.</p>
<p>Hey, I'll be entering with about 60 units. I talked with counsellors because I'm in a program where all students will have a similar amount of credits when entering college and discovered colleges will not let you enter as a sophomore, regardless of how many credits you have. I'm in a difficult position because I'm done with more than half of my lower division classes and have to keep competitive because I'm applying for Haas. I'm planning on doing a simultaneous major in econ though, so that should keep me occupied. Anyway, hope that helps.</p>
<p>uhh did you speak with a Berkeley counselor or just a counselor at your high school? (when you say colleges, it sounds to me as if this information is not Berkeley specific. please correct me if I'm wrong)</p>
<p>what a great idea. start your freshman year with upper divison classes and get your GPA screwed over and fail to graduate. i think i'm going to take honors calc 1 again even though i'm finishing up differential equations.</p>
<p>What's the point in having all those units when only some of them fill the needed requirements? You still have to go through the seven-course breadth and all the prerequisites for your major. </p>
<p>There is also no real advantage to entering as a sophomore early in my opinion. College is more than just learning what you need for your major; there needs to be some exploration and fun. Zipping through is probably not the best idea.</p>
<p>For me, most of the units I have were earned at community college where I was concurrently enrolled throughout high school. They will fulfill breadth requirements and prerequisites... I only have two breadth requirements left to complete and have met 7 of 9 breadth requirements (which is all that's needed to enter the business major). By entering with the units, I will be able to take other classes that are of more interest to me but don't necessarily relate to the major and weren't possible to take beforehand. Also, I plan on studying abroad and this way I don't have to worry about what credit I will receive from the classes I take there. I'm interested in knowing the class standing I will enter with, as I'm hoping to take a class that has a prerequisite of junior standing.</p>
<p>why are you guys so eager to finish up college so quickly? i'd rather choose to begin berkeley with a nice and easy freshman year</p>
<p>I'm not. I want to take the class (the one with a prerequisite of junior standing) during the year because otherwise I'll have to go to the summer session after being admitted to Haas (which is mandatory for all acceptees, though they don't make you repeat the classes if you've already taken them), and I don't want to give up my summer.</p>
<p>I came in to Cal with classes. I finished my breath requirements by the end of my first year at Cal. </p>
<p>1204&etc: You will still be considered a freshman because you didn't apply as a junior transfer. You've made your life so much easier! You can cruise by with 13 units your first year taking classes you want to take. And you can take some pass/no pass which makes life even better! However, don't take upper division. Stay away from any class 100 and up (upper division).</p>
<p>Attend CalSO! It'll help with advising and stuff (though most of it is online).</p>
<p>Also, L&S will review your courses that you took at community college. Don't be surprised if you find out not all of them fill out a breadth requirement.</p>
<p>Your class standing will change after your first semester. It takes the university a while to process your transcripts. I now have junior standing in my second semester as a first year at Cal.</p>
<p>I looked at the articulation agreement with the community college at assist.org before signing up for the classes I took, so I'm sure that they all fulfill the prerequisites and breadth requirements (breadth for Haas, which is more broad than L&S, from what I've seen). Thanks for the info concerning the class standing!</p>
<p>12041987: It wasn't my High School that reported this to me. The program I mentioned before is for less than 30 students, so the counsellor is very specific regarding colleges. The only real way to skip years is if we were enter as junior transfers (or fight through red tape), but as everyone else had already said, I think it's agreed we'd rather enjoy the college experience. </p>
<p>whatiscollege: hahaha. this post was like a geometric proof! I agree, upper division courses for freshman would be tough. While many of the credits I've taken (and I'm assuming otehrs) have fulfilled much of the lower division classes, I think there are still a few more left to cover. I'm in the same party as you when it comes to retaking classes. I'll probably retake courses essential to my major as courses at a CC probably do not compete very well with Berkeley courses.</p>
<p>berenelen: Depending on what classes you took, all of them could fulfill your reqs. (Isn't that one of the points of having CCs? So students can transfer with prereqs completed?). I agree with the latter of your post, who would want to skip a year of college??</p>
<p>eiffelguy87: I'm applying to Haas and was wondering, in your opinion, do you think it would be all right for me to relax a little my first year because of all the extra units and credits? I want to take it a little easy to get used to the college life and coursework, but I'm afraid they won't see me as being very competitive.</p>
<p>FilmmakerJack: I recommend speaking to a Haas adviser and looking through the Haas website. I'm not in the capacity to make that judgement or to declare an opinion.</p>
<p>However, most freshmen (those who listen) usually average 13-15 units their first semester at Cal. There have been arguments saying that freshmen can take more (say, 18 units), but the general advise is to take 13-15 units. One or two of those classes being major prequisites requirements, a reading and composition class, and a elective. You'll get more of this if you attend CalSO. And moving to a new place does mean adjusting to it (it's a class in itself!). And by "taking it easy" with 13-15 units, you'll be doing yourself a favor.</p>
<p>eiffelguy87: I have two more short questions for you!!
1. Is there a maximum number of units that I can bring in from AP and CC? In other words, will I be able to bring in all 67 units so I'll be able to relax big time? :-)
2. What will appear on my Berkeley transcript: the course title, the college the class was taken at, the grade that I received?
Thanks!</p>
<p>Does anyone know whether IB courses are awarded units? A recent graduate from our high school reports that he did not get a single credit for his perfect 45 score in the IB program...anyone have information to the contrary?</p>
<p>I know you can get out of the reading/composition requirement via IB credit. IB credit can also be used to satisfy breadth requirements and prerequisites for Haas. However, I don't think you receive any units for IB tests.</p>
<p>1204&etc: Here's the deal with the AP exams. AP exams may only be used for Reading and Composition, Quantative reasoning, and foreign language. It doesn't give you seven-course breadth credit. </p>
<p>You must consult the individual dpeartment for course equivalences. If you duplicate AP credit with course work, your AP credit will be deducted from your transcript.</p>
<p>You must take at least 60 units in L&S courses before you can graduate. So you can't just rely on your AP and CC work. You may include at most 60 units from courses in other schools and colleges at Berkeley. These count toward your 120 units. You're also only allowed a maxium 130 units after 8 semesters. </p>
<p>On your Berkeley transcript, it will state the course title, the insitution and the grade you received, as well as the term you took the class and the grade point (not grade point average, however). But the grade will not count toward your GPA.</p>
<p>Also, you'll get so much more info during CalSO and reading your L&S's Earning Your Degree.</p>
<p>Be forewarned: these are Letters and Sciences requirements, not Engineering, Natural Resources, Chemistry, etc.</p>
<p>Thanks! I'm not worried about L&S breadth requirements, as I'll be entering Haas and completing their breadth requirements (for which AP credit is accepted). Anyways, thanks again! One more question (I promise it's my last, haha): if my community college transcript has a W on it, will that wind up showing on my Berkeley transcript? (I'm not planning on dropping a class, but the W is already on my transcript from a previous semester, so I'm just curious)</p>
<p>Hey... </p>
<p>I was admitted with more than 90 units accumulated throughout high school. I transferred 70, the maximum. These units will let you pass out of courses but they count towards units for graduation only if you want them to.</p>
<p>As a freshman, you are guaranteed a full four years here. The credits you earn are basically equivalent to AP credits. </p>
<p>The only courses that appear on your Berkeley transcript are those that you have taken here. However, the units that you have earned from the community college will show up (there will just be no classes associated to them). If you look up your Degree Audit Report, you will see what classes you have already fulfilled and where you fulfilled them (but only you and the registrar see this).</p>