<p>I read, in College ******* I believe, that most BC students are conservative (given the rich white kids demographic). But it did say that Democrats are represented.
So just how conservative are people?</p>
<p>"College ******* "</p>
<p>What did you write there that CC censored you? I'm really curious.</p>
<p>"I believe, that most BC students are conservative (given the rich white kids demographic)"</p>
<p>I can't help but laugh out loud at the thought that "most" BC students are conservative. Not even close. People that I know at BC are overwhelmingly liberal to moderate. This strongly reflects the social liberalization of our generation more than anything else. The College Republican at BC gets as much attention as the College Democrat. The ultra conservatives at BC are pretty hardcore, but the radicals are much more insane (or at least they sound pretty insane on their emails). While not every student is crazy for welfare, since they do come from relatively wealthy background, but most are socially liberal (gay right, and etc). A referendum about supporting gay rights--about three or four years--was passed with 80% of the student body supporting it. Most of the UGBC (Undergraduate Government at BC) presidents and vps over the past years, except for 3 years ago, have been very liberal on their stand. The Student Senate has repeatedly voted for liberal issues whenever they come. </p>
<p>The administration is conservative. But other than that group, BC is becoming more liberal. Being a native Bostonian, I know many conservative alumni who wouldn't even consider sending their children to BC (something about mass not being attended enough...)</p>
<p>Oh wow... that really makes me feel better! Thanks :)</p>
<p>And I was trying to say College Pr0wler.</p>
<p>Right, because conservatives are so scary and everything. We should all feel so much better that there aren't as many as there used to be.</p>
<p>^ Amen. Conservatives are scary. They say one thing and do another. They are all for buying bombs to blow third-world countries while millions of children in this country are living without health insurance. If the Soviets didn't implode on national television, conservatives would have us believe Uncle Stalin is pulling Sean Penn's strings</p>
<p>Well what I meant is that I want more of a balance [I mean I'd prefer more liberals, but I'm all for diversity].<br>
Just my personal views... not looking to offend :)</p>
<p>Liberals are dirty. All for giving our hard earned money to welfare, raising our taxes and spending them on useless institutions like the IRS, wanting Iraq to remain a safe haven for terrorists, changing the institution of marriage, and using governmental power in areas of life in which it is not welcomed.</p>
<p>^ Amen. Liberals are dirty. They love giving their money to the government. Most of the most liberal states pay the most taxes, more than all the neo-conservative ones. Those hippies should keep their money to themselves and pout on it. And God, let not even remind ourselves of all the things Liberal's money is being spent on, by the neo-conservatives (like that bridge to no where, thank you Super Conservative Man Ted Stevens). Isn't it crazy that the one modern liberal/moderate President actually managed a budget while the neo-cons couldn't even try if their lives were on the line? God dam the liberals for stealing the conservatives' idea. Let not forget all the problems those liberals created with their invasion of Iraq. We all know Saddam is one of those Liberal-commie too. He was for warrantless-phone taping, torture, massive spending on the military, and oil oil oil. The Iraq War is like a Liberal-Civil War. Those tax-paying, balanced-budget, respecting-human-right, dirty Liberals. They disgust me too.</p>
<p>(Phew, being a neo-con is hard. So much contradictory and irrational thoughts to reconcile:D</p>
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<p>What happen to all the Barry Goldwater Conservatives (aka Classical Liberals)? The balanced-budget type. The ones who were for freedom and individualism. The one who wanted smaller government. Oh...they joined the Liberals...Did God fall asleep one day and turn the universe upside down? Or, they do what McCain is doing, and lick the neo-con boots. Boy, I sure miss those traditional conservatives and not those neo-conservatives. Goldwater...<em>whisper</em> Nixon...where are thou?</p>
<p>reddune are you a student or a parent?</p>
<p>Student of course, only someone who is in their 20s can express such sarcasms without regard for the consequences (it also helps with the liberal indoctrination I'm getting from all the professors). Ah, what it means to be young.</p>
<p>P.S.
I don't like paying taxes either. Not enough money left for...uh...books.</p>
<p>P.P.S
I wouldn't be a liberal if I was a parent; I would be a radical. You know what they say, the older you get the more conservative you become. So by starting my kids as radicals, by the time they are in their 40s, they will have regressed back to Clinton-esque Liberals.</p>
<p>liberal radical=Commie</p>
<p>"What do you call a failed Marxist?
A professor of Humanities. "</p>
<p>Gets me every time.</p>
<p>Reddune -</p>
<p>If you like Barry Goldwater, you'll love Ron Paul. :-)</p>
<p>^ I'm a HUGE RON PAUL fanboy. I'm the only one on campus who think he's the only sane candidate there is. While everyone in my dorm is dying over their man-crush (I live in a all male dorm) over Barrack Obama, I'm the only person who has a Ron Paul Revolution in front of my door.</p>
<p>Ron Paul 2012!!!</p>
<p>Dude who uses the word commie in the year 2008? Also, Ron Paul is a fanatical whack-nut but back to the original question:
There are many very active liberal and radical groups on campus including:
The Boston College Democrats-largest student group on campus, mostly moderate democrats
The Global Justice Project (GJP)-very radical think tank, action group
Women's Health Initiative (WHI)-pro-choice, pro-contraception group
The Boston College Patriot- Left wing newspaper</p>
<p>How can you be a liberal and still love Ron Paul? He hates everything that attempts to redistribute wealth (the IRS, the UN, etc.) and, on a personal level, he's a white supremacist, or at least he accepts money from them. I hate that man.</p>
<p>And in any case, the representations of both liberals and conservatives are both flawed, because both fail to acknowledge the fact that <em>all</em> politicians are scummy, two-faced, manipulative liars who want to have as much power as possible. If they weren't, they'd never have been elected in the first place.</p>
<p>On-topic: All colleges are at least somewhat liberal. It's a historical fact. Even in the early 1800s, Klemens von Metternich put his spies in universities to detect and arrest liberal revolutionaries. If you put enough people who aren't paying their own way together, of course they'll agree that they know best how to distribute other people's money.</p>
<p>hey, barack obama is sexy. There's no way around it. America needs a good looking prez.</p>
<p>I think I'm a closet Libertarian. And by the way, the IRS, the UN (and one of its many incarnations,the WTO) are not about "redistributing wealth." </p>
<p>Here's why I support Dr. Paul:</p>
<ul>
<li><p>We NEED to STOP, I repeat, STOP spending money we don't have on stuffs we can’t afford or direly need. We are borrowing money from numerous countries and are being EXTREMELY wasteful with them (again, the bridge to no where comes to mind). The Chinese don't need to send nukes to wipe us out, they only need to wait 10 years and let interests accrued and then call in the loans. Paul's economic plan makes sense. We cut down spending by cutting the Defense budget, which is a Napoleon of a hog. We have very expensive bases in Germany, Japan, Korea, Saudi (where's the oil discount man?) and God knows where else. I personally believe, considering how incredibly effective the Germans were in fighting two World Wars, they can take care of themselves. Another example: the Air Force recently wants to raise its own budget by 20 BILLION DOLLAR A YEAR, because it feels that it needs to have 1800 brand spanking new F-35 to fight the Russians...yes, the Russians--Lord knows they are planning to invade America after 60 years of boring stalemate. We can reinvest that money into Social Security and education (smart kids, not smart bombs). </p></li>
<li><p>The war is mistake. Dr. Paul, if anything is the epitome of a humble foreign policy man, and we need to get the eff out. We need to reinforce Afghanistan. Dr. Paul was against Iraq since the beginning, he is for destroying the Talibans, so let finish the job there. </p></li>
<li><p>Dr. Paul wants to END the imperial Presidency (a legacy of Nixon). Every time the President wants something in term of foreign policy, he'll get them without a hassle from Congress. All he needs to do is to invoke these two magic words, "National Security." We need to stop supporting dictators in the name of "national security," because that's going to **** people off and they'll try to blow themselves up in our backyard (Does the Shah of Iran sound familiar to anyone?). Furthermore, We SHOULD NOT go to War without the full declaration of Congress. To do otherwise would be UNCONSTITUTIONAL. If we want to save the world from tyranny, then declare war on the aggressor, because then you would have the mandate of the American people to destroy the tyrant.</p></li>
<li><p>Accountability with taxes. The IRS is a freaking black hole. It sucks you dry and crushes you into itsy bitsy pieces. How many people here can honestly say with a straight face that they know where their income taxes are going to? Property tax is used to support local education and town infrastructure, tax on your car is to build road, so what does your income tax do? Is it helping a dictator afloat when his people are crying for his blood (Looking at your "Mr. President" of Pakistan) or is it paying off the outrageously large interest that the Chinese is collecting? And oh yes, let all praise the IRS for its benevolent kindness because it gives us rebates AFTER IT FREAKING TAXES US! The U.S. got along fine with tariff tax for more than a hundred years (fighting several wars along the way). You don’t spend what you don’t have. FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. What we need is accountability on the way our taxes get handle. The American people need to have the power to prioritize their taxes. </p></li>
<li><p>Now, the UN and its benevolent missions. The US contributes the most money to the UN and so far the UN has done jack in term of resolving serious conflicts. It allowed Rwanda under its watch, of course, “apologizing” after the fact. It’s currently allowing another genocide to occur under its watch (does Dafur sound familiar?), when the UN did send in “Peacekeepers” they were as effective as the (quite stylish) blue berets they were wearing. In Yugoslavia, the Dutch “Peacekeepers” were handing over fugitives to the oppressing Yugoslavian troop for murder (Of course, they know what they say about Dutch courage). The only thing the UN is marginally good at is foreign aid, but that of course gets compromised by the local warring dictators. We already have a global charity organization, and it’s the Red Cross. Stories of corruptions and wasteful spending are rampant in the UN. Koffi Annan’s son is being accused of corruption. I got a kick a few years back learning of the demand for a new 10 billion dollar UN headquarter built with American’s non-interest “loans” (the program was proposed by who else, but the French). Yes, non-interest loans, with today inflation, politicians are incredibly inventive in finding new way of burning money.</p></li>
<li><p>Who’s next? The WTO. The benevolent WTO has recently “acknowledged” that some of its programs to save in debt third-world countries are misguided. One such program is prohibition of third-world country from subsidizing its poor farmers with fertilizers. This resulted in farmers resorting to burn off forest for farming (what a great way to combat Global Warming) Other programs like opening up their border for “free trade” effectively crush local agriculture. One such example is Jamaica where local farmers cannot compete against federally subsidized American agricultural products. Hooray for free trade, Poor Jamaica Farmers vs. Billion Dollar subsidized American Farmers (Adam Smiths would be proud). Oh God, look at all the wealth the WTO is redistributing using money that was given to them from our tax dollar! Dr. Paul is all for liberal and free-trade, but what we have right now is neither liberal nor free. </p></li>
<li><p>Now, the white supremacy charge. It’s true he accepted white supremacist money. But so? His office response was that the money is better spent on his campaign than let it be used on racist cause. You made it out like Paul was the first to receive money from white supremacist. Woodrow Wilson got some handsome checks from the KKK too. Truman, a decent president he was, did have it clean check from all the decent white folks from Mississippi. George Washington campaign was run by slave owners. Gasp!</p></li>
<li><p>Who here would love to have a machine that could print unlimited Franklins? I'd love one, so would our government. And guess what? it does have several, and it's printing like there's no freaking tomorrow. These days, you can't even buy a roll toilet paper with the American dollars. As some who is saving his money for that backpacking trip to Europe, I cry myself to sleep thinking of Europe. The Gold Standard, as crazy as it is, HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE BEGINNING OF CIVILIZATION! Greenback and its vices are recent phenomenons.</p></li>
</ul>
<p>What I disagree with him on:
- Woman reproductive right
-...I guess that is it.</p>
<p>I'm a closet libertarian too. Don't tell anyone.</p>
<p>Oh boy, look what I started. Nothing like a heathy Internet political debate :)
Thanks DHRBC07 for explaining those organizations.</p>