<p>BD: Thanks from me too. But I'm new at this and need to ask: would your advice apply to students interested in jazz programs as well or is that a whole different kettle of fish?</p>
<p>Momnipotent,</p>
<p>She was not accepted at Curtis. They only took one bass player that year and the young man who was accepted most certainly deserved it. They did like her audition, however, and encouraged her to try again if she ever had any desire to transfer. From what I heard, only a few applicants received that kind of encouragement.</p>
<p>She applied to BU, CIM, CMU, Curtis, NEC, Oberlin, Peabody and Rice. She withdrew the applications from CIM and CMU before auditioning because she had already been accepted at Oberlin. She was also accepted by NEC and Peabody.</p>
<p>Jazzymom,</p>
<p>I would imagine that a lot of what is in those articles applies to jazz programs, but there are probably other considerations that apply to the jazz world that I simply do not know much about. For example, I know that the auditions can take a very different format from the classical music auditions. You might ask someone like Beethoven's 10th, who knows the jazz scene quite well and who has a son who is a freshman jazz major.</p>
<p>My child did at least consider colleges with music as well as conservatory, though chose that in the end.
U Maryland and Northwestern School of Music -both have amazing conservatory teachers, along with Eastman, Curtis, MSM and Juilliard.
Juilliard was the final choice. It's a roller coaster adventure and not for the faint hearted.
One good thing about lesson(s) with a teacher during senior year is that you know what to work on, as well as getting an idea of chances.
I want to add that we managed to afford a single summer of Interlochen Music Camp. Many of the orchestra and vocal kids will be auditioning at the same schools the following spring. Again, gives the child a sense of where they stand, and what needs to be worked on to get into conservatory or school of music with the teacher of choice.</p>
<p>Juilliard.. it's like jail, only with cellos-Robin Williams</p>
<p>OldinJersey-</p>
<p>LOVE your name! I am also.</p>
<p>Thanks for reminding me of Robin Williams quote....it's a keeper!</p>
<p>OldinJersey - welcome to the board, from another Juilliard parent. I'm going to bump the Intro thread, so you can fill us in on your child's experience.</p>
<p>binx (aka OldinGeorgia :) )</p>
<p>BassDad - thank you SO much!</p>
<p>BassDad - thank you SO much!</p>
<p>Wow...this is the best thread on CC, at least for me...I applied to Oberlin Conservatory. I'm dirt poor, and international, but I have a hell of a taste for music...I hope I get in =(</p>
<p>Wow! That's some really helpful information!</p>
<p>An outstanding series of posts, BassDad! Thank you VERY much for writing this and for pointing me to it in anothe thread.</p>
<p>BassDad
I remember reading this series last year.
I wish there was a way for you to publish it for the music parent community who don't frequent CC.It should be required reading!</p>
<p>Yes - when I was just starting I had NO CLUE!!! But when you helped me out... wow - my eyes opened.</p>
<p>Thank you. I am glad that several people on this board have found this information valuable. As far as publishing goes, I am not sure what other distribution channels would be available to get it where it would do the most good. I have been thinking of working it over a bit, adding a few things and then making a pdf file out of it. At that point, I would not know what to do with it. I rather doubt that a publishing house would be interested in such a slim volume with so small an intended audience and, in any event, I want this information to be available free of charge. Any concrete suggestions would be appreciated.</p>
<p>BassDad,
Have been reading this article in bits and pieces since you posted it. It is so valuable and I am going to have both my DD's read it. The oldest, ofc, is an hs junior looking to major in music ed at a school where music ed majors are treated w/ some respect. However, I am also going to have my youngest DD read this article, bc although she is not going to be a music major she at this point wants to be a dance major and I believe that your article taken as a whole provides some interesting points that could be pertinent to anyone thinking of majoring in some sort of fine arts where an audition or choosing the right school can make or break your whole college experience. KUDOS to you on this article!</p>
<p>Also, can you tell me the titles of the college guidebooks for performance art majors that you gave your DD? I am sure these would be helpful to my DD's as well.</p>
<p>Bassdad- You might want to consider submitting it as an article to Strings magazine, or contact state or national chapters of ASTA (American String Teachers Association), MENC (Music Educators National Conference) or MTNA (Music Teachers National Association).</p>
<p>National music fraternaties- Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia (men), Sigma Alpha Iota (women), and Pi Kappa Lambda (nat'l music honors) might also be considered.</p>
<p>Strings magazine has begun a supplement to their monthly, geared towards younger players, many in the pre college age. They also publish an annual list of music schools. Strings also is widely distributed through music educators, who can obtain free copies.</p>
<p>The music educators associations each have permanent national websites and all have a section devoted to careers in music... perhaps they would consider hosting your pages.</p>
<p>The fraternaties as well have national pages, another option.</p>
<p>You have provided a wealth of info in a well written, concise and amusing format that should be read by anyone considering the path our kid's have chosen. If you need a member of a specific organization to "front" you in contacting any of the above, PM me... my son holds membership in most.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>BassDad,
Excellent information and posts. Thanks very much. S2 is a HS junior and is interested in perhaps minoring or double majoring in music / performance (piano) along with a computer science major. Do you know if the process is the same with auditions and such before acceptance or if he would wait until he was actually enrolled in the school for this? One of the schools we will be looking at is CMU, but we can't visit until this summer. Doing an east coast visit during spring break with general liberal arts schools, where the music program is not as well known as the schools you mentioned. Academically he is top notch, so we can pretty much look at any level school as a possibility. Any insights or suggestions from anyone would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!</p>
<p>Hi,
We're also (DS 15) very interested in double majors-Music + Math/Science, at places like oberlin and others. Was it hard to do both in terms of time conflicts. I'm trying to imagine running from one school/program to the other. Any downside? How many hours of classes a week?</p>
<p>Wow, a flurry.</p>
<p>MomO'3, The books were </p>
<p>Peterson's Professional Degree Programs in the Visual & Performing Arts, 2003 Edition, ISBN 0768908183</p>
<p>The Performing Arts Major's College Guide, 3rd edition by Carole J. Everett, copyright 1998, ISBN 0028619137</p>
<p>The Princeton Review Guide to Perfoming Arts Programs, by Carole J. Everett and Muriel Topaz, copyright 1998, ISBN 0375750959</p>
<p>There may well be newer editions available.</p>
<p>Violadad,</p>
<p>some excellent suggestions there. Do you think any of them would allow me to publish anonymously? Although I stand behind what I have written, I have given a lot of personal information in those articles and would rather not publish my real name along with it.</p>
<p>Sewbusy,</p>
<p>Admission processes differ from school to school, sometimes markedly. You will need to find out directly from each school of interest what is needed and when it is due. Not many schools have a performance minor, so you will want to ask about that as well.</p>
<p>One thing to be careful of at CMU is that the music curriculum is (or at least was) fairly rigid and does not contain many electives that can be used to satisfy the requirements of another major. I highly suggest that you research the music major requirements and the computer science requirements and figure out how long it would take to satisfy both of them.</p>