So you want to go to Princeton...

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<p>It’s not ‘attacking’ your post. ‘Correcting’ your post is more what it is. The information you handed out is so out of touch with reality that it is highly misleading to those who may read it. And, you didn’t mean to be a prick? You are a prick, by nature. I didn’t even attack you, and you kept throwing ad-hominem attacks saying I am a ■■■■■■. In real life, I have no doubt you are an elitist ugly prick gunner virgin with like 2 friends that look down on state school grads and loathe anyone who didn’t attend Princeton or whatever, out of insecurity and way to justify your existence as ‘future leader of our generation’.</p>

<p>Fermat- I agree with you, everyone just doesn’t like to hear what you’re saying because they want to believe the idealistic dogma of universal equality and opportunity. However they all seem to think you’re outright saying “my life will not amount to as much as somebody who got in to Harvard or Princeton”. If I’m not mistaken all you are saying is that attending HYPS is a huge leg up and opens doors. Which is undeniable. They are referred to as prestigious for a reason. In reality, people (namely the person who may or may not hire you) always simplify and categorize candidates. If one person has an unknown state school degree and an excellent resume but another has an HYPS degree, it is entirely plausible (albeit unfair) that they have a bias toward the latter. I am not saying it is right but I fully believe it is true.</p>

<p>Hmm…leg up in life vs being surrounded by tools like Fermat for 4 years…tough call.</p>

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<p>Are you really this ■■■■■■■■? I specifically said 100 times that for a CAREER in Law, IB, and Consulting, school prestige MATTERS.</p>

<p>For other careers, such as medicine, dentistry, pharmacy, accounting, engineering, computer science, sales, non-profit, many other corporate jobs, etc etc, where you go to school DOESN’T matter much at all.</p>

<p>Since I am attending law school and entering a career in law, it makes perfect sense that I go to a prestigious law school to open up solid employment opportunities in legal field. What I am saying is that it depends on who you are and what your career goals are, to see if going to X,Y,Z college or whatever will help your employment outcome. </p>

<p>If I was to go into medicine or accounting, I couldn’t give a f-uck about what school I will go to. You can go to no-name state schools and still end up with same, good jobs anyway. It is because these fields don’t discriminate people based on academic pedigree, unlike IB or Law.</p>

<p>While it is TRUE that getting IB job from Princeton is easier than at elsewhere, it is still HARD. AND, the MAJORITY of Princeton grads don’t end up with a finance/ banking job anyway.</p>

<p>You are hopelessly ■■■■■■■■.</p>

<p>Thank you jhannel88, Jesus Christ. That was all I was trying to say, whether everyone likes it or not, that is the harsh reality of things.</p>

<p>I do agree there are a lot of state school students that are extremely bright and talented, but if you read CC and when it comes to the college admissions process and the employment process, YOU ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS YOU ARE ON PAPER.</p>

<p>It sucks, it’s not fair, you can go whine all you want but IT IS TRUE. It is a fact.</p>

<p>And jhannel88 put it perfectly into words. I am sorry and I truly, truly apologize if I came out the way jhannel88 stated: that your life will not amount to as much as sombody who got in to Harvard or Princeton. </p>

<p>I addressed that in an earlier post by stating that a state school student still has OPPORTUNITIES, and may I repeat, STILL HAS OPPORTUNITIES available to him, but he will have to work MUCH, MUCH harder than his IVY peers to reach those opportunities.</p>

<p>That’s all I was trying to say – and if you disagree with me, then you are only fooling yourself, because that is the HARSH REALITY OF THINGS. NO ONE said life was easy.</p>

<p>Jhannel88 also addressed it perfectly: that employers tend to categorize applicants and are biased when making decisions because the employer never had any personal relationship with the applicant. Therefore, ceteris paribus, and Ivy League degree will beat out a state school applicant any day of the week, in any job sector, hands down.</p>

<p>That’s why state school students will have to work MUCH harder to overcome that bias that employers naturally have toward applicants.</p>

<p>Sorry if you don’t like the truth, but that is reality.</p>

<p>Both of you sound stupid for using the term “■■■■■■■■” in a completely incorrect way. You also both need to understand that happiness is not directly measured by income, and that not everyone would be happy as a STEM major. Also, although going to a prestigious college does help, the difference between schools like Cornell and Princeton is so minor that it shouldn’t be much to argue over. </p>

<p>Fermat, although your post may have been well intentioned, this is definitely not the time to be telling applicants about the significance of attending Princeton. Seniors now are just finishing up applications, and will be stressing until decisions are made. It’s ok to tell newly admitted students your thoughts, but there’s no need to further worry seniors who are already freaking out enough.</p>

<p>Keabie18, true that, but when I was applying to colleges I knew full well the importance of getting accepted into a top college. So I worked my ass off to beat all my peers in all aspects of the college admissions game. That is what I am telling the applicants now – you better work your ass off because the competition out there is TOUGH, but if you beat it, you will surely be rewarded. I don’t care if you’re freaking out, MAN up and WORK HARD.</p>

<p>The college admissions game isn’t for pussies.</p>

<p>Lastly, I’d like to substantiate my point my bringing this up one more time:</p>

<p>[Colleges</a> That Bring the Highest Paycheck 2011 | Best Careers Opportunities](<a href=“http://www.bestcareersopportunities.com/2011/07/colleges-that-bring-the-highest-paycheck-2011.html]Colleges”>http://www.bestcareersopportunities.com/2011/07/colleges-that-bring-the-highest-paycheck-2011.html)</p>

<p>Location, prestige, academic reputation and tuition are major factors for students in the college selection process, but post-graduate salary is something rarely taken into consideration.</p>

<p>Although salaries depend heavily on a graduate’s field of work, companies are willing to pay a premium for students hailing from the nation’s top universities. But which undergraduate institutions offer the most valuable educations?</p>

<p>Recently, PayScale.com released a report on the highest salary potential among the nation’s top colleges, and from this data, colleges and universities can be ranked by the mid-career median salaries of its graduates. For schools with the same mid-career median salaries, starting median salary determines their relative rank.</p>

<p>So, which schools have highest paid graduates?</p>

<ol>
<li>Princeton University</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>Harvey Mudd</li>
<li>Harvard University</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Polytechnic Institute of NYU</li>
<li>Duke University</li>
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<p>Thank you.</p>

<p>Dear Princeton CC Community,</p>

<p>Every time I go to the Princeton sub-forum, I see this stupid thread being constantly bumped up with new posts. Can we please talk about something else for a change?</p>

<p>Love,</p>

<p>Decillion</p>