so you've got the degree, now what?!

<p>i am having so much trouble deciding on what to do with myself. i know many people say that if you HAVE ANY DOUBTS about going to college for the "performing arts" than it isnt FOR YOU! but i can not imagine my life without acting, singing, dancing...i crave the arts, and it IS what i want to do. But, but, but, im just thinking about my life after the degree.</p>

<p>what exactly can i DO with a B.F.A in MUSICAL THEATRE, or DRAMA
how will these degrees provide for me if i dont make it?</p>

<p>as some of you may know, my true passion is acting. ( goal is to make it in film )
but, does having a COLLEGE degree in acting totally necessary in order for me to make it? would just taking acting classes be enough? </p>

<p>And from things ive been told, most college programs DONT allow students to audition and pursue their careers during college. Which can be a good thing, and a bad thing, but just the THOUGHT of my career being pushed back FOUR years...</p>

<p>We all want to make it, one way or another. BFA or NO BFA,
i guess im just asking for a little guidance... on what path to take in pursuing this career..</p>

<p>I've never heard of a good BFA program restricting their students from pursuing professional work during college. A lot of people from my last school (U of Arizona) would leave for a semester or even a year in some cases to do professional work. I've also heard of a lot of people at other big schools like UMich and CCM and whatnot taking a leave of absence from classes to work professionally. In fact, when I saw the national tour of Phantom of the Opera way back in 1997, the girl playing Christine at select performances (she did 2 a week, I think) was a junior MT at Michigan at the time.</p>

<p>Hope that helps somewhat. :)</p>

<p>Deeny,</p>

<p>On the contrary...a lot of college kids in their sophomore, junior, and senior years work professionally.</p>

<p>I haven't posted this on CC...as I was awaiting the appropriate moment...this seems like the right time!! Both my Ss at Webster University, who are sophomores, have been cast in the St. Louis Repretory Theatre's production of Pirandello's "Henry IV" by Tom Stoppard. They are currently in rehearsal (had to return early from winter break) and will perform for 5-6 weeks through the months of February and March....plus maintain their conservatory schedule.</p>

<p>I think the only time most programs won't allow you to audition and perform is during the freshman year. That year in particular is crucial to development.</p>

<p>There are plenty of actors who go out and land jobs without a degree in hand. BUT formal training gives a performer clear advantages to those who are not trained. Ask yourself who YOU would rather hire if you had a choice? Of course much depends on what you as an actor/singer/dancer have to offer....and what the director is looking for at that particular moment.</p>

<p>This is a popular subject here on CC. We as parents, students, and coaches have given this much, much thought. Certainly you will receive wonderful advice and encouragement from other posters.</p>

<p>I just know from my experience as mother and mentor....there are no second doubts...it is full steam ahead.</p>

<p>Best of luck!</p>

<p>SUE aka 5pants</p>

<p>You've raised several questions and I'll comment on them. </p>

<p>One has to do with what can you do with a BFA in MT if you don't get work in theater? As a parent of a BFA in MT student, this does NOT concern me at all. For one thing, a college degree will ALWAYS be beneficial in terms of getting employment. Most students have many strengths or skills, not just performing. For instance, just talking of my own kid....she excels as a writer and also someone who creates. I know if she doesn't make it on stage, there are lots of things she is capable of doing and even interested in....writing shows, musical directing, accompanying, choreographing, even performing outside of theater, and other things too. She is going for it as a performer in musical theater but that doesn't mean she is not skilled or interested in other things she could do if she doesn't get work on stage. </p>

<p>Secondly, I posted a while back a list of skills that those who are trained in theater possess that make them quite attractive employees in other disciplines....so I don't want to recopy that but through searching, you may find it. Attributes like collaboration, preparedness, taking direction, problem solving, creating, etc. all are developed in actors and transfer to many other disciplines. Many folks in the work world are working in careers that are not necessarily directly related to their college majors. A college degree will be beneficial in getting work and it is not totally about what the major was. Many BFA students in some BFA programs take considerable liberal arts courses as well. Some even minor in something else. They have become educated thinkers. That alone is useful in many jobs. </p>

<p>Upon graduating, a student will try to make a go of it in theater and during that time, while auditioning and making the "rounds", she will most likely have to hold some type of flexible job. This is a common thing to do initially after graduating from a BFA program. </p>

<p>Then you mention that your true passion is actng and you prefer to work in TV or film. In my opinion, your best avenues are either a BFA in Acting (not MT) or a BA in theater with the potential of going on for a MFA in Acting. For your goals, those seem like better routes in terms of the appropriate training. In fact, a BA might be good for you as you are wary of job prospects with a BFA and you can always go on for a MFA. With MT, there really is not a MFA route so a BFA is the main college training available. But I think if you prefer to go into film and TV, I'd suggest training primarily in acting, not MT. </p>

<p>You asked if a college degree is necessary to go on in acting....well, not necessarily. You could do a training program or classes that are not college based or even several two year acting schools, while auditioning to get work. But this seems to go against everything else you wrote. You are concerned about being able to get work if you don't make it as an actress but if that is a concern, then a college degree is going to help you lots more in that regard than just taking classes or some other acting training and auditioning...because if you do not make it in that scenario, you don't have the education or college degree to stand on to get "other" work. </p>

<p>You asked about putting a career on hold for four years and brought up auditioning while going to school. This is a personal decision but putting it "off" in order to train is a good thing because then you are merely 22 and still a young actress but also more prepared and skilled at it. Training never hurts! However, it is possible to audition while attending school and taking a leave if you get work. This is difficult in that many auditions conflict with classes but I guess you can make it work on occasion. It is a personal decision. Some kids do it and take a leave and then come back. I know ones who have. My daughter recently told an agent that she does not want to audition for theater while in school because she really wants to be in school now and says that she doesn't want to be faced with a decision that if she got cast in something, what to do and knows she really wants to be in school and so that would just make her torn when she can sit now and say she truly wants to be in school and likes it and wants the training. She'd prefer to use summers only to get work, for now. She does NOT see this as four years "wasted" but rather four years "gaining"...she'll be better suited to get work when she is done. Actually in her case, she'll only be 20 when she graduates...surely still a "young actress". </p>

<p>I don't see going to college as pushing your career back four years. You are FURTHERING your career. You are not killing time but you are making yourself into a better actress in terms of getting work in the field by being trained, plus you are getting an education under your belt in case you don't get work as an actress...kinda win win. Your career also can involve summer stock or other professional work during the four months you have off each year from college. </p>

<p>Does someone HAVE to get a BFA to make it? Surely not. But these issues are the ones to weigh.</p>

<p>Sue, I did not see your post but that's great for your boys! Yay! That professional work dovetails well with their schedule. If the shows are at night and they are in the same city, then it is not that different than fitting in a college production every night while going to classes by day. Often the difficulty is with shows that rehearse in the daytime which does not dovetail well with the class schedules. I guess your sons got those rehearsals in over break so it works out beautifully for them. Congrats on their casting!
Susan</p>

<p>No one can tell you how to "make it" or if you will make it.
In this business there are no proven rules to follow. That makes it hard to give advice, but I can tell you a few things:</p>

<p>You do not need a college education or even any training at all to have a career in film and television. It does help to be young and it helps to be an easily castable type. I personally think that excellent training will help give you longevity in the business. But it is no guarantee.</p>

<p>Your life after the degree? That depends on the choices you make now. A college degree, although expensive, will be helpful for some job opportunities. Susan has mention some of that. My personal opinion is that a well educated artist is always a welcomed addition to the human race!</p>

<p>You are right. I know of many BFA programs who do not allow you to work professionally outside the department until grad school. You would have to look into that on a school by school basis. </p>

<p>Wish we had a crystal ball. Good luck to you.
xxx,Mary Anna</p>

<p>I think this is a personal choice. You do not have to have a degree to be a successful actor in either film or theatre but you do need to have the proper training. My daughter was accepted to several colleges for MT and acting and chose instead to pursue her career in acting and defer college. She is extremely talented and has been doing theatre like many on this forum since she was very young. She is represented by a great agency in NY and LA has a wonderful manager and is currently actively auditioning and pilot season is in full force. MT was always her dream but there are so many other opportunities to pursue as well. She is currently up for a role in a new James Cameron film has had two call backs. This is a tough business whether you have a degree or not. But, more importantly she is still training! She takes dance class 3 times a week along side broadway performers and broadway wannabees, her scene study partner is a graduate of NYU, and she has taken classes along side students at NYU's Stella Adler program.. she is doing a caberet in NY this spring, she is learning all aspects of the business, and is gaining much required auditioning experience. She also walked the runways during fashion week, spent three weeks in Paris and has only been out of high school since June. There are so many different ways to succeed it really just requires perserverance, talent, training, and a lot of hard work..she just choose a different path to follow her dreams.</p>