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<p>Wow. You’re not very mature. And yes, it’s just you.</p>

<p>To answer your question, colleges want people who will succeed in life and make big donations several decades from now. Some of these people are outgoing and hard working, others are just very, very smart. Some are clearly talented writers, others are already involved in political activism. And so on.</p>

<p>Popularity might correlate with some other desirable qualities in candidates, but having friends in high school, on its own, is not an indicator that you’ll succeed in life. Which is why no, it doesn’t score you any points.</p>

<p>And the sooner you stop feeling superior over “little nerds” with a smaller number of casual acquaintances than you because they “have no social life in high school”, the sooner you’ll be taken seriously outside of high school. Which is where real life happens. So, you know, work on that.</p>

<p>“The smartest students, straight A’s USAMO winners, siemens kids, etc,
most of the top kids who apply at HYPSM aren’t exactly the most popular kids at school. Classified as nerds in the average status quo?”</p>

<p>No college to my knowledge cares about how popular its applicants are with the average high school crowd. </p>

<p>Someone who thinks that they can impress HPYS quality schools by demonstrating their own popularity with average high school kids is going to be very disappointed when they get their admissions results.</p>

<p>Having the guts to get good grades and scores and consequently be unpopular at one of those lowly ranked schools were the students and teachers disdain students with top grades could help boost on into HPYS quality schools.</p>

<p>At strong high schools, students who are very bright and accomplished tend to be very popular.</p>

<p>okay, i see your point. i understand your question, but the way you worded it really offended a lot of us. using words like “popular” in a college-application setting is, well, not mature. implying that smart students are not popular is even worse. </p>

<p>being smart does not make you a nerd, socially awkward, or a dork
this isn’t a high school clique movie.</p>

<p>And it doesn’t even matter how strong your high school is. my high school was borderline awful and all of our valedictorian candidates were nominated for homecoming royalty at least once and were very well liked. i was also well-liked around school. </p>

<p>i think its the other way around. a majority of HYPSM applicants are smart, driven, AND they also succeed socially. a fraction at best may be those “nerds” that are awkward and can’t hold a decent conversation. </p>

<p>to anser your question, yes, colleges want intellectual students that will fit in and be outgoing, social, and willing to try new things. “popular” is not the right word and sounds ignorant and judgmental. they can tell through your essays and recommendations. they will see your personality in your essays and see how your teachers describe you in a school setting. the interviews also help a lot, they use these to get a sense of your personality and to see how you would fit in with the rest of the student body.</p>

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<p>First of all, LITTLE nerds? I’m five feet, nine inches.</p>

<p>Also, I’m curious as to how you measure what constitutes a “nerd.” Someone who studies alot? Because I do. Someone who cares about school? Because I do. Someone who’s never dated? I’ve dated girls since 9th grade. </p>

<p>I’m also my school’s swim captain, debate captain, and president of two clubs. So yeah, I’m a real outcast man.</p>

<p>This shallow interpretation tells me that you most certainly are not Ivy material. ‘Little nerds’…</p>

<p>^5 decrescendo!</p>

<p>I was just called a nerd on the internet by golly I’m depressed now.</p>

<p>I’m not actually affected by your comments but just to let you know I do happen to be captain of the football team and student council president. So even if I am a nerd in your eyes, I sure am not little. </p>

<p>It seems to me that people who care about their popularity aren’t always the most popular.</p>

<p>^5 to you too, Northstarmom! :smiley: haha.</p>

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Haha yeah, and I’d also like to add that the nerds who are socially awkward and kinda weird usually aren’t smart at all in high school. As my best friend in middle school once said, “what’s the point of being a nerd if you’re not smart?” So no, popularity won’t help you in admissions and don’t print out all the facebook pictures of you to send as supplementary material.</p>

<p>hello:</p>

<p>Your problem is that you are making two false assumptions. They are:</p>

<p>1) Most people who get into Harvard, etc. are not “popular” in a traditional sense. As people have said, this is not necessarily true. As another piece of anecdotal evidence, the one girl from my class to go to Harvard (we are a really small class) was definitely popular in a traditional sense. She was the head of clubs like debate, she hung out with the “jocks” and other “cool” kids, she went to parties. She was also very smart, very ambitious, very accomplished and rather intellectual, but not in a “geeky” way at all. Thus, popular, but also Harvard material.</p>

<p>B) That people who are seen as “geeky” in high-school can’t also be “people who are socially competent and are liked by many people.” This is just a false assumption. I was not popular in a stereotypical way in high school, in that if a stranger dropped into my school, they would probably guess that my friends were the “nerds.” And we were, in our way. Well, nerds/weird arty kids. Most of us didn’t do sports, liked school a lot, tended to like sci-fi/fantasy, tended to be the ones taking either Comp-Sci or Art or Theater instead of Econ as our electives, etc. </p>

<p>But just because we had interests that aren’t cool in high school doesn’t mean we were all socially incompetent. We just had our own parallel social circle, where people went out on the weekends, dated, broke up, had fights, made up, teased some people, liked others more than they deserved, gossiped, flirted, hung out at lunch etc, etc, etc. We were generally leaders in things like the Sci-Fi club and the Literary Magazine and Theater instead of Debate and the Newspaper and Mock Trial, but we still had those leadership skills. We just did what interested us.</p>

<p>And guess what? We all managed to be social and have leadership roles in college, too!</p>

<p>Thus, while it is generally true that top schools want many of their students to be able to interact socially (unless they have a major talent to make up for not being able to), the fact i, most people who have the ECs to get into Harvard WILL be socially competent, even if they weren’t “cool.” Interviews and letters of rec will almost always be enough to indicate if someone is completely socially incompetent, in which case the adcoms can decide whether that person is talented enough in other ways to be worth admitting (and sometimes, they are). But my guess is, most people who Harvard admits have it all.</p>

<p>Being popular does not win you brownie points on top school applications, such as HYPSM. I dont mean to sound callous here to the OP, but did you really, honestly think it did? I mean… the majority of smart people ARE socially competent and can hold a conversation without breaking out in hives. There are always exceptions, but thats what they are – exceptions. </p>

<p>Try not to use stereotypes so much (which you claim to not be a part of… odd… no one claims to be a part of this stereotype, and yet it exists? I thought stereotypes had at least some basis in truth, guess I was wrong)</p>

<p>Apply and get in based on your ECs, your scores, your GPA, and show them youre a unique person, not a popular person. They really dont care if you had the most friends or got invited to the most parties.</p>

<p>Being popular, in my opinion, shouldn’t and doesn’t affect your college admission. My Harvard interviewer did ask me how my classmates viewed me, but I think he was strange anyway. No one else asked - or cared.</p>

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<p>Are you kidding me? At my school, which is below average (mean SAT is 1100), being super-smart = instant celebrity. After some idiot leaked my college acceptances, which I did not spread around on Facebook, I was practically mobbed by strangers, overzealous parents included. Generally, I have found that students exhibiting high levels of intelligence and achievement are admired by their peers - unless they have some salient deficiencies in their character.</p>

<p>I don’t know why all of you are ragging this guy. The common STEREOTYPE is exactly what he says, introverted and nerdy. It’s a stereotype and of course it has some truth in it. Stop being defensive and get over yourselves.</p>

<p>^But I don’t think that’s the stereotype of HYPSM + similar schools’ students, to be honest. Maybe MIT, but regarding the others, no. :)</p>

<p>You have a point there. Mmm, maybe we can just cut it off at “straight-A students” ahaha. Remember when we used to use that phrase? Good times.</p>

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<p>Um, the popular perception is that those people are “nerds”, have no leadership positions and aren’t into sports, and are anti-social and unpopular? Interesting! I would have thought the opposite, actually.</p>

<p>If i was harvard and i got an application in which the student stated “I’m popular” (wether implicitly or explicitly), i would recommend community colleges near that student to reject him even if he/she has a 4.0 uw GPA.</p>

<p>Why are all of you guys getting so butt hurt about a harmless question.</p>

<p>Haha 0.25 GPA increase if you’re pretty. This just made my day :)</p>

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Not true (is it?) I hope you’re joking.</p>

<p>^Not completely, of course. But MIT is the closest you’re going to get to the “nerd” stereotype as viewed by outsiders that the wonderful OP mentioned. Who cares, really? Haha, are you headed to MIT next year, ripemango?</p>