<p>If anyone needs advise on how to get better at push-ups for their CFA let me know I can now do the max 75!!! So excited!</p>
<p>Why wouldn't you just post your "advise" instead of waiting for someone to ask for it? Pray tell.</p>
<p>75 isn't the max... (it might be for the CFA, but not the PFA which you take here every term)
once you get here that's right about at barely passing (assuming you're getting equal numbers at situps and your run time is decent. </p>
<p>don't just quit cause you "maxed out" keep getting better at them. 100 in 2 minutes is a solid goal.</p>
<p>oh man you can do 75 please tell me your secret i can only do 40!</p>
<p>75 is not an impressive number. it might be for a girl, but even then thats about average for them</p>
<p>so 40 is very bad?</p>
<p>40 correct is more impressive than the crap they let fly at KP.</p>
<p>as stated above...100 is a good goal.</p>
<p>The MINIMUM for the PRT for males is 51 push-ups, 62 sit-ups, and 11 minutes for a 1.5 mile run. There are good odds that something will happen that day and you won't be able to do your max so make sure you have plenty of wiggle room.</p>
<p>here's the problem, you can't get the minumums on everything and pass... it unfortunately doesn't work that way.
if you were to only get 51 push ups you'd have to have a much faster run or higher sit up score. if you get less than the minimum in any category then it's an automatic failure. if you get the minimums at everything you'll still fail. you have to get a certain number of points to pass (180 points is minimum passing, and i have no idea how it's calculated). </p>
<p>as DA said, 40 done right is a lot harder than 100 done the kp way. a lot of people here find a way to slide through on what is hardly recognizable as a push up. don't be one of those guys...</p>
<p>Don't worry, it continues on in the fleet as well. Some of the pushups are more of a "neck bob" than anything else</p>
<p>These links show how the scores are calculated:
For males: Male</a> PRT Standards
For females: Female</a> Physical Readiness Test Standards</p>
<p>In order to pass the PFA given each trimester here, you must complete the events to satisfy two conditions:</p>
<p>1) Score at least 45 points in each category.
2) Score at least 180 points total.</p>
<p>So even if you're really bad at running (like me), you can get the lowest score and then make up for it in the push-ups or sit-ups.</p>
<p>Candidates will be administered a PRT at the very beginning and at the very end of indoc. These are just to gauge how much each person improves over indoc. If you pass the one at the end of indoc, I'm fairly sure that you won't have to do the one for first trimester. However, if you fail the one at the end of indoc, you won't be punished but you will have to do the one for first tri.</p>
<p>If you fail a PRT for the tri, you will be placed on "PEP." This just means that you meet three mornings per week at 0500 in the gym. Mondays and Wednesdays you'll go through some exercises and running, while on Fridays you will take the PRT again. You have to pass twice to get off of PEP.</p>
<p>Well first of all the reason I did not say how I accomplished the 75 push-ups was because I had to go pick up my sister and was in a rush forgive me for not doing so. </p>
<p>As for USMMA2009 you say that 75 is nothing but perhaps that is because at KP many do push-ups incorrectly "as DA said, 40 done right is a lot harder than 100 done the kp way. A lot of people here find a way to slide through on what is hardly recognizable as a push up. Don’t be one of those guys..." for me I no that I do them correctly and if you think that 75 is not hard then good for you I commend you on your ability to do push-ups!</p>
<p>However for those of us who do struggle such as I did and apparently EatSleepSail is it is very easy to improve upon them.</p>
<p>1) Bench at least 3 times a week
2) After you finish benching do Dips (I am pretty sure this is what will help you)
3) Finally do push-ups maybe 2 sets at your max</p>
<p>Do this for a couple of weeks and when you try and the next time you try and max out in 2min you will feel as if it is extremely easy because your not used to doing them fully recovered and dips are amazing on the triceps!</p>
<p>The numbers may seem overwhelming if this type of physical training is new to you, but the key is practice and gradual buildup. When candidates procrastinate their practice, parents are tempted to nag. However, since there are no parents at Indoc, a better option is for the candidate to work with a gym or personal trainer. Give them the info from KP and they can get you ready in a professional manner.</p>
<p>seakid011,
don't think we were minimizing your progress, not at all! that's awesome that you've made such great improvements. keep it up!
we just don't want to see you get over-confident in your abilities and face the harsh reality once you get here. you're progressing quite well, but that's no excuse to slow down or say you're good enough. push yourself!</p>
<p>Dont worry the PFA is the least of your worries once your here</p>
<p>well that all depends... some people get stuck on PEP and never get off.
there was a kid in my class plebe year that failed the PFA every time because he was a slow runner... he quit because he was so fed up with it.
it's all important... mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, etc... you can't neglect any part of it! they all work together. i'm going to copy paste something from a thread from a few months ago. </p>
<p>"here's the truth of the matter: as a guy, if you're only pulling those numbers, you've already marked yourself. don't turn in those scores if you feel that you can do better in the next little bit. </p>
<p>i don't like being the bearer of bad news, but it seems as though you've tried to segregate the mental, emotional, and physical aspects into separate realms... here's the truth:
they're all lumped into one. </p>
<p>i thought the same thing at first. it's easy to think that until you've seen how it really is at KP.</p>
<p>you're constantly exhausted from one thing or another, your girlfriend will break up with you and cause all sorts of emotional junk, and you're slammed with twice as many classes as any of your civilian school buddies, all while being constantly slammed by the regiment. they all build on each other, if you're weak in any of those areas, you will suffer in all of them. </p>
<p>true, only getting one pull-up won't be the end of the world, but it shows a lack of understanding in the interconnected nature of these aspects. if you want to test your mental fortitude, go for a 10 mile run. not a jog, but a run. if you want to test your emotional fortitude, join a team sport and sink all your effort into a game, regatta, meet, etc...and see how emotionally wrecked you are if you lose or fall short. if you want to test your physical endurance, join EMS and run calls with an ambulance from 1800 to 0600. </p>
<p>so you see, these aspects are not separate, they all work together. the people at KP that review your folder know this. i think the biggest concern i see in your explainations is this... "i'm going to work my butt off..." attitude. why haven't you been up to this point? don't have that attitude, if you want KP, then you should be saying "i've been working my butt off, i'm not there yet, but i'm giving it my best every day."</p>
<p>sure, every mid at KP struggles with maintaining this attitude, let's face it--it's not easy to stay that motivated. however, as we progressed through school: indoc into plebedom, from plebes to DIs, from DIs to 3/C, into Sea Year, etc... we have more behind us to motivate us. with my first Sea Year behind me it's given me the hard-headedness to not let it drop now... i have too much invested in this place to let it get the best of me. </p>
<p>bottom line is, if you want it, go get it. </p>
<p>now."</p>
<p>it is not directly related, but it's close enough... don't let your PT drop while you're here... it keeps you mentally sharp.
in the words of the beloved Master Sergeant Hauser, "Kill bodies"</p>