<p>Current student in BA MD program - on the verge of being kicked out of the program though because of bad grade in Orgo
-i had a 4.0 freshman year so i'm not retarded</p>
<p>also the school sucks and I really dont like it
I just came here because it was the only program I got into</p>
<p>In retrospect it seems best to go to a school where youd just be happier.
I really thought that I'd be happy here but I was wrong - make sure you thoroughly visit a school a few times and talk to kids there all the time, maybe even attend a party or two at the colleges you get into</p>
<p>I feel like I'm missing out on some great years because of this school and because of the program I've chosen to attend
-I believe I woulda been much better off at an Ivy type school</p>
<p>Maybe things will pick up for me, and I apologize for the depressing post. </p>
<p>Read my old posts to see if/how my views have changed since last time I posted. Anyway thats my input. Hope you guys make this deicison very carefully .</p>
<p>what school are you attending?</p>
<p>Hi IB – let us know if there’s anything we might be able to help with.</p>
<p>-Mike</p>
<p>if you want to find out where is is going, it is located in his old posts. just search for it, i’m not at liberty to disclose it in public</p>
<p>Ayayay! I’m in the same boat. I did the exact same thing. I’m getting my rear end out though. This is good advice, y’all. Trust me…you don’t want to be down right miserable.</p>
<p>Note: This account is new for anonymity reasons…I’m not ■■■■■■■■ or anything.</p>
<p>Be fair. You can’t just tell ppl that the school sucks b/c you had bad mark on Orgo and on the verge of being kicked out. If the school is “that” bad, how could you get a 4.0 on your freshman year?? You should work harder to get good mark. Going to the Ivy type school doesn’t mean you don’t get bad mark on Orgo. Keep up with your hard work please!</p>
<p>^I don’t think that his bad orgo mark is what’s making him miserable. You’d be surprised, but it’s not that hard to do well when you first start school because you’re very motivated. However, when the reality of your school hits you, you’re drained and unhappy. It’s much harder to do well then. Bottom line: if you’re not happy, you will do terribly in your studies.</p>
<p>what program are you in, bodaciousG?</p>
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<p>I agree. Very important to go to a school that you’d be happy at.</p>
<p>How can you find out before you go? If you are not happy in freshman, doesn’t mean you must not be happy in sophomore! How do you define “happy”?</p>
<p>I think what the OP and others mean by happy is that, you should not attend a bs/md program solely for it being a bs/md program.</p>
<p>You should pick a school that you would enjoy even without the medical school guarantee. If this school ends up being the one with the bs/md program, then its a nice positive, if not, go to the other school and work hard to enter med school. As many have mentioned, it is much easier to succeed when you enjoy where you are.</p>
<p>thanks BodaciousG, I think you more or less understand where I’m coming from. I wish i did this from an anonymous account too now that I think about it.</p>
<p>Anyway, I dont mean for people not to go to BA MD because BA MDs can be great programs but still make sure its a college you’ll be comfortable going to. Really, a lot of BA MDs are at colleges you would normally never consider. I think these colleges have BA MDs to attract students they could never have otherwise. I just want to say just think about your decision very carefully.</p>
<p>And about the Orgo bad grade being the reason I hate my college - no, not quite. I mean sure that definitely made the situation a lot worse because if I get kicked out I’m going to feel like wow I came to this college for the BA MD program and now I’m not even in it - so I just made a terrible decision when I could have had a better time somewhere else.</p>
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<p>You won’t be 100% sure until you actually attend but you can make a good guess based on the academic environment, location, quality of student body, strength of desired major, social life, etc.</p>
<p>The question to ask is: “Would I apply to this college if it didn’t have a BS/MD program?” I don’t mean this college has to be your top choice but would you even apply or consider going if you didn’t have the guarantee? I’m sure a lot of you 2100+ scorers would’ve applied to Drexel or St. Bonaventure anyway, right? ;)</p>
<p>lol yea norcalguy got it right</p>
<p>ask yourself if you would go to that college, were it not for the program</p>
<p>The thing is all of Freshman year and beginning of Sophomore year I would say to myself this place kinda really sucks but at least I’m in a great program and I have it relatively easier than most other pre-meds.</p>
<p>Little did I know I was going to be on the verge of being removed from the program and going to have it just as bad as the other premeds (or worse because I didnt start on extra currics freshman year b/c I was in the program and didnt need them). </p>
<p>Also thanks for the support bluedevilmike, but what I think I will try my best to do from now until Finals is by some miracle and hard work to ace Orgo 2 final and stay in the program. I think it can still be salvaged but is near impossible. Anyway if I can manage to stay in, I’m sure I’ll be a little happier because at least I can still become a doctor, even though I’ll still feel my college years kinda went down the drain. But perhaps most premeds feel that way anyway? Don’t know.</p>
<p>I don’t understand…you’re getting kicked out just from one lousy grade, especially after you had a 4.0 freshman year? Isn’t there some dean or some kind of support staff that can help you work through this (maybe put you on probation or something)? Seems kinda harsh to remove you based on one course.</p>
<p>NCG: It fits with my theory of why these programs exist. My theory is that it’s bait to lure talented undergrads to the undergraduate program. Once you’ve got them hooked, there’s no point to giving them the actual seat. So these “guarantees” are not only unnecessary but far from guaranteed. (Preempt: effort changes because they’re advertised as guarantees.)</p>
<p>I’ve recently been told that one such program had kicked out three of its students after their very first semester.</p>
<p>dude one of my friends already has left after one bad grade - he didnt have a 4.0 like me but a 3.8-3.9 freshman year
he was going to be dismissed anyway at the end of the year and there was no way he could bring his grades back up so he just said why stay here another term just to get kicked out. He transferred to a different school. I wasnt in as dire a situation as he was in and for me it still may be possible to stay in. For him, he was definitely going to be removed.</p>
<p>And bluedevilmike, I think you’re being slightly too cyncial. I dont’ see BA MD programs as a trap at all. Sure they want to bring students like you to their college but the stats to stay in the program really arent thattt terrible. Like basically you’d need these stats to get into medical school anyway. The only thing though is psychologically it can be very, very unsettling since for me at least my entire family, everyone my family knows - knows that I’m going to be a doctor. And if news comes at the end of this term that I’m kicked out, sure I can still try to apply to medical school, but its like I got into a program from which I’m going to be a doctor, and now they say I can’t be one, like I’m not smart enough. Getting kicked out is very unnerving psychologically I think. </p>
<p>But bluedevilmike you are 100 percent right in that they are presented as guaranteed programs, and are farrr from that. They are more like conditional acceptances. I think its a bit of false advertising to refer to them as guaranteed programs.</p>
<p>And norcalguy because of the incredible weight of Orgo (5 credits a term) even if I have a 4.0 from freshman year if I get a B- and a B- lets say in Orgo 1 and 2 with perfect grades in everything freshman year, my gpa wouldn’t be high enough to stay in the program. So one course can really hurt you.</p>
<p>btw enough whining, you wont here anymore from me
its time to just give it my all</p>