some conservatives = hypocrites?

<p>I don't know if this happens at any other schools but the self proclaimed conservative kids at my schools seems to be more likely to get drunk, do drugs, have more promiscuous sex than the liberal kids. This is really making me mad because in say like government or english class they preach about the virtues of the "family" and basically bash on immigrants yet they go home and do all this crap. How can they say that being gay is immoral but still go out and get drunk/having sex before marriage (which I'm personally not against but the notion clashes with the conservative ideals). I'm not saying liberal kids are totally free from reproach but most of my liberal friends are less likely to do this...is this common with other ppl?</p>

<p>no, i think it is just common in people in general. not a conservative or liberal problem.</p>

<p>some liberals = hypocrites
some independents = hyprocrites</p>

<p>All conservatives are hypocrites. They say they are pro-life, but support war and the death penalty. They say they are for small government, but support the USA PATRIOT act and the constant curbing of civil liberties. They say they support conservation, but not of the environment.</p>

<p>Yeah, I'd say that some conservatives are hypocrites.</p>

<p>I totally agree almost all conservatives are hypocrites and complete idiots</p>

<p>So, because I support small government and low regulation, that makes me an idiot? </p>

<p>What about liberals? According to you, it seems that liberals do the Work of God, and would never flip-flop on an issue? I'm not saying all liberals are like this, but don't try and tell me none of them are.</p>

<p>Truth be told, however, I am liberal on social issues.</p>

<p>Without getting into a fierce argument here, I'd just say that there's a big difference between killing the unborn who haven't had a chance to define themselves versus executing society's most brutal murderers and fighting the world's most oppresive regimes. </p>

<p>Anyways, to the OP's point, I don't see this happening in my school: those who preach morality generally practice it, but there are plenty of both conservatives and liberals who enjoy, er.., extra-curricular activities after school.</p>

<p>Obviously there are plenty of idiots that say one thing and do another, and plenty of them are conservates...</p>

<p>...BUT, there are also plenty of liberals that fly in their private jets across the country preaching against the use of Hummers and liberals the preach tolerance but won't accept some conservatives' choice of lifestyle...</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=320735%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=320735&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>There will always be conservatives that are hypocrites and just as many liberals that are hypocrites. I'm not sure what the point of this thread is, but I hope it doesn't turn into another of the conservative-bashing threads that are getting ever-increasingly popular here, because those are really lame</p>

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Without getting into a fierce argument here, I'd just say that there's a big difference between killing the unborn who haven't had a chance to define themselves versus executing society's most brutal murderers and fighting the world's most oppresive regimes.

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<p>Mmm, and the difference between "killing the unborn" as you call it, and killing innocent civilians as "collateral damage"? Big difference there, or no?</p>

<p>I agree with post 8 wholeheartedly.</p>

<p>I never understood the whole liberal/conservative thing</p>

<p>Maybe cause I'm not into politics or anything</p>

<p>Never understood Democrats or Republicans either.</p>

<p>I don't get how a huge group of people could all have the same stance on many different topics.</p>

<p>I guess this means I'm indepedent? I decide how I feel about a topic as it develops. I don't think i could ever be held to fit a certain mold.</p>

<p>Back to the original post.</p>

<p>PEople already hit it on the head when they said that it's inherent to human nature to be hypocritical. Definitely not assocaited with a certain group.</p>

<p>The main problem is that we associate conservatives with a number of positions, and liberals with a number of other positions. Based solely on which positions the Republicans hold, and which positions the Democrats hold. The whole dichotomy between Republicans and Democrats is preposterous at best. </p>

<p><em>sighs</em></p>

<p>That being said, you can avoid being hypocritical by setting up a double standard. The definition of a hypocritical is "a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings" (M-W). Well, he can denounce action X with respect to all people BUT himself by setting up a double standard between himself and everyone else, and avoids the accusation of hypocrisy in this case (because by setting up such a double standard, he effectively does not act in contradiction to his stated beliefs/feelings). This, of course, is one reason why double standards are often confused with hypocrites.</p>

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...BUT, there are also plenty of liberals that fly in their private jets across the country preaching against the use of Hummers and liberals the preach tolerance but won't accept some conservatives' choice of lifestyle...

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<p>That liberal's point is still 100% valid. The issue with the conservative contradictions mentioned above is that they invalidate each other.</p>

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What about liberals? According to you, it seems that liberals do the Work of God, and would never flip-flop on an issue? I'm not saying all liberals are like this, but don't try and tell me none of them are.

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<p>Flip-flopping is more a sign of intelligence than insecurity, it means the person in question is able to change his views depending on the evidence instead of stubbornly standing by one view.</p>

<p>Post 4 is pretty ignorant.</p>

<p>Ignorant huh? Ignorant of what?</p>

<p>Philosophical or political rants aren't really necessary. Post #3 basically says it all. Whammy. End of story.</p>

<p>Saying "all conservatives are hypocrites" is a blatantly hasty generalization.</p>

<p>Capital Punishment and anti-abortion are not necessarily contradictions. You are pro-life in the sense of protecting the right of life for people who have that right. People who commit murder, therefore, forfeit their right to life and thus should not have their lives protected. If you don't accept "forfeiting the right to life" argument, then putting people in prison is similarly wrong because you take away his or her liberty. I don't believe capital punishment is right, but I nonetheless understand the argument.</p>

<p>Liberal "pro-choice" position is similarly hypocritical because most don't believe in free choice in other areas. How many of them would say paying taxes should be a choice? What about letting employers and employees negotiate whatever wage they want instead of setting an artificial minimum wage? What happened to allowing poorer parents choose the school their children goes to instead of forcing them to attend to the local public school?</p>

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**All **conservatives are hypocrites.

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some conservatives are hypocrites.

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<p>Some people are hypocrites. Some people are conservatives. It should obviously follow that it is likely that some conservatives are hypocrites.</p>

<p>I don't understand conservatism, really.</p>

<p>If you are for minimal government involvement (which is the basis of conservative ideology), why are you trying to put laws on my body?</p>