some conservatives = hypocrites?

<p>This is ridiculous. Anyone who says "all conservatives are hypocrites" is an idiot. How many do you know? hmm? 50 at BEST? </p>

<p>do you want to know WHY we believe in the death penalty? you cannot have a society in which people who murder and rape are set free. And we do not have a structure that locks people up in jail forever, therefore, we must have the death penalty to end it. Pro-life...duh. We know how to prevent having babies, ok? There are plently of methods of birth control, used both before, during, and after sex. So why should we even debate killing babies <em>after</em> they are concieved? gah.</p>

<p>I believe in a limited government with less restriction..hello? That's republicans and conservatives. </p>

<p>I am not a hypocrite--I do not drink/smoke/etc. I have my morals, and you have yours. I follow mine, and you [may] follow yours. There is nothing wrong with that, but what does it have to do with conservatives and democrats? You can't honestly compare people who are all younger than the voting age, especially when the majority of them do not know enough about politics to hold up a halfway intelligent conversation.</p>

<p>In Highschool, it's not politics unless you're <strong>really</strong> involved and interested, and I'm pretty sure the majority of you only know that you love everyone and want things to be equal.</p>

<p>Hello? there are more important things in the world than gay rights and pro-life/pro-choice.</p>

<p>i'm not wasting any more of my time....</p>

<p>you dont seem to understand that conservatives think this about you. </p>

<p>I am very conservative, and all I have to say is that sweeping generalizations get people nowhere.</p>

<p>i always thought the whole "hypocritical conservativism" debate was always over the basic American right wing platform itself. Always people differ from that, whether you're left, right, up, down. but certain things do contradict themselves, like "pro-life" but pro-war and death penalty, etc.</p>

<p>but if you're talking about people's personal actions...that's something completely different. NO ONE is free from hypocrisy.</p>

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Not every teenager is their parent's mouthpiece. Contrary to popular belief, we do have our own brains. I am 16 and have radically different views then my parents on some things and have similar viewpoints on other things.

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<p>Congratulations. You belong to the 5%.</p>

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but certain things do contradict themselves, like "pro-life" but pro-war and death penalty, etc.

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<p>Sorry but that logic doesn't work. There is a difference between a solider who voluntarily signs up for armed forces being killed in the line of duty and the killing of an unborn child with no say what so ever. </p>

<p>For the record I am against the war, but you cannot make comparisons like that.</p>

<p>There are idiots and hypocrites in ALL areas of the political spectrum. And there are reasonable, responsible people who make good choices in all areas of the spectrum as well. The end.</p>

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That liberal's point is still 100% valid. The issue with the conservative contradictions mentioned above is that they invalidate each other.

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<p>It is, nonetheless, hypocritical. </p>

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If you are for minimal government involvement (which is the basis of conservative ideology), why are you trying to put laws on my body?

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<p>Do whatever you like with your body, it's the baby's body I'm concerned for. </p>

<p>And to the OP, if you say conservatives are hypocrites for having values and then living like party animals/sluts, then either liberals are hypocrites as well, liberals are perfect, or liberals have no values. There is no other logical possibility, so I'll just let you decide which makes you look the least dumb for starting all this.</p>

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Do whatever you like with your body, it's the baby's body I'm concerned for.

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<p>Then don't get an abortion. Period.</p>

<p>If you're here to bash conservatives, please do your bashing in the CC cafe by rehashing the 5,000,000,000 threads that already do this, or just create another one. </p>

<p>I'm assuming that the OP is a liberal. Funny how your party preaches tolerance, but then you turn around and bash others who do not share the same beliefs as you. That means you are a hypocrite also.</p>

<p>However, based on your post, I think that it is a problem with individuals, but not the Republican Party and their ideals. You cannot make generalizations about the Republican party based on the few people you know that are conservatives.</p>

<p>If you want to know more about the conservative beliefs and ideals, then ask a true conservative like me. I'll be more than happy to answer your questions as long as I don't recieve any disparaging remarks, rude comments, and/or defamation of character posts.</p>

<p>BTW, I'm in college and nobody in my family is a conservative, so my parents have not had any influence on my beliefs.</p>

<p>I agree, dumb red drunk-faced rednecks.</p>

<p>One thing that always annoyed me. Not everyone thinks a fetus is an unborn child. Not all RELIGIONS think that a fetus is a person. So having a law that prohibits abortion because it is murder is violating the separation between church and state (another debate, i know).</p>

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One thing that always annoyed me. Not everyone thinks a fetus is an unborn child. Not all RELIGIONS think that a fetus is a person. So having a law that prohibits abortion because it is murder is violating the separation between church and state (another debate, i know).

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<p>While I would love such a law, I understand this point. My main problem with the state of things is that the supreme court legalized abortion in the entire country instead of letting the states decide for themselves. It was a highly unconstitutional ruling, and it's ridiculous that it still stands. </p>

<p>If Vermont wants to legalize abortion and Nevada wants to make it illegal, then the court should not stop them. I'll be sad for the babies in Vermont, but it should be the state's choice, not the court's</p>

<p>Hmmm... just like if Mississippi wants to make segregation legal, it should be the state's choice, right?</p>

<p>Damn activist judges.</p>

<p>Yeah that's pretty fair to the raped girl in Nevada who gets pregnant isn't it? I mean sure, she has a lot of choices now(illegal abortion time!).</p>

<p>If you make abortion illegal, abortions will not go away. Instead,there will be back-alley abortions that put the mother in extreme danger.</p>

<p>Apples and oranges, J_B, apples and oranges.</p>

<p>HF, what about murder? The way it is, it happens in back alleys and behind closed doors, whereas if we made it legal, it would happen in plain view and I could dispose of an annoying jerk in one of my classes (not my fault his mother conceived him, and he's ruining the class for me).</p>

<p>Besides I'm sure that when the baby in Nevada grows up he/she will appreciate the law.</p>

<p>but that baby may grow up with a mother who cannot properly care for him or her because she was not prepared for the child, and the child will always remind her of her horrific past. if the baby is given up for adoption, or especially to an orphanage, it probably would get the care it needs to. that child has a high chance of living a very rough life.</p>

<p>i think there's this Ani Difranco song about a man who originally might've been aborted, ended up being a cog in the capitalist machine, just like everyone else. i don't believe in people "not having the right to exist", but it makes you think. i can't think of the song though.</p>

<p>Apples and Oranges? Pretty similar if you ask me... both are round, sweet tasting fruits.</p>

<p>You were making the case that it was wrong for the supreme court to make decisions for different states. Or does that apply to circumstances where the court rules against your side? Find it funny how it was judges like Scalia who ruled against California in the medical marijauna case? I do.</p>

<p>States rights my ass.</p>

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but that baby may grow up with a mother who cannot properly care for him or her because she was not prepared for the child, and the child will always remind her of her horrific past. if the baby is given up for adoption, or especially to an orphanage, it probably would get the care it needs to. that child has a high chance of living a very rough life.

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<p>I choose not to judge what is and is not a life worth living. </p>

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You were making the case that it was wrong for the supreme court to make decisions for different states. Or does that apply to circumstances where the court rules against your side? Find it funny how it was judges like Scalia who ruled against California in the medical marijauna case? I do.

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<p>To answer your question, yes, I am a states' rights guy (to an extent), mainly because I'm somewhat fond of the Constitution. Liberals tend to like to ignore, so I understand where you're coming from.</p>

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eah that's pretty fair to the raped girl in Nevada who gets pregnant isn't it?

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<p>So your saying HF, that rape-babies are fair game? Yes it's tragic for the mother but there is a reason we have ADOPTION CENTERS or Orphanages. I'm sure once the child is grown up it will be pretty glad it wasnt aborted just because of the circumstances. There are tons of succsessful people who were raised by those other than there biological parent(s)</p>

<p>Only time abortion SHOULD be legal is if the pregnancy or birth could hurt the mother.</p>