Some dreams are never meant to happen

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<p>Rejected from Wharton Transfer as Sophomore
(Applied last year, rejected ED straight out)</p>

<p>My dream is gone, but I will post my profile here.</p>

<p>High School--</p>

<p>Freshman:
A, A, A, A, A, A, A (0 AP Classes)
Sohpmore:
A, A, A, A, B+, B/C+ (3 AP Classes)
Junior:
A, A, A, A, B, B, B+ (5 AP Classes + 2 Self Study AP)
Senior:
A, A, A, A, A, A (4 AP classes + 1 Self Study AP)</p>

<p>AP Scores:
5s and 4s</p>

<p>SAT I: 1700 (freshman), not submitted
ACT: 35 (retook in college)
SAT II: 800 math 2, 800 math 1, 800 bio (retook in college)</p>

<p>3 days Suspended once for not listening to teacher and using other computers. (Freshman)
3 days Suspended another for throwing soda at teacher/student being angry. (Sophomore)</p>

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<p>University of Michigan:</p>

<p>1st Semester:
ASIAN 251 A
Econ 101 A
Soc 100 A+
Anthro 101 A+
LHSP 140 A+
Total: 18 credits (max), 4.0</p>

<p>2nd Semester:
ACC 271 A+
CALC 215 A
Econ 102 A
PSYCH 122 A+
LHSP 125 A</p>

<p>Total: 17 Credits, 4.0</p>

<p>High School Resume: <a href="http://www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/highschoolresume.doc%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/highschoolresume.doc&lt;/a>
College Resume: <a href="http://www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/collegeresume.doc%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/collegeresume.doc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>ESSAYS---</p>

<p>Letter of Explanation: <a href="http://www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/letter.doc%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/letter.doc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Letter of Explanation 2: <a href="http://www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/letter3.doc%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/letter3.doc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Why Transfer Essay: <a href="http://www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/whytransfer2.doc%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/whytransfer2.doc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Why Penn Essay: <a href="http://www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/whypenn2.doc%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/whypenn2.doc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>First Experience Essay: <a href="http://www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/firstexperience.doc%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.miiclub.org/includes/domit/firstexperience.doc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I tried my hardest, and some things just never happen. The website says that if you were rejected last year, do not reapply again this year. It's true.</p>

<p>Wharton has been my dream school. I tried my best, really, but I am still a failure.</p>

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<p>I'm sorry.</p>

<p>If it's any conselation, UMich is an AWESOME school.</p>

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<p>I already dropped out of umich.</p>

<p>This may sound rough, but Umich was just a way to give myself a chance to transfer.</p>

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<p>So where are you headed next year?</p>

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<p>I'm living at home with my parents and finding a job. Perhaps I'll help my parents in their real estate business. Although I hate real estate.</p>

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<p>C'mon dude you got to pick yourself up, don't be so negative!</p>

<p>Why did you drop out of UMich though? Even if it's not your first choice, isn't it better than no school?</p>

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<p>WHY did you drop out? You were dominating UMichigan.
I don't understand??</p>

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<p>I'm sorry, chanman.</p>

<p>I don't understand the dropping out of UMich part either. What the hell is up with this "Wharton or bust" attitude?</p>

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<p>Chanman did this last year when he got rejected too--all he kept on talking about was not applying to college until he got into wharton and all that crap. He's not going to drop out. I feel bad for you, but don't push it.</p>

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"Counter Strike PC Game player (8th-12th)"

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<p>Why would you include this in your R</p>

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<p>I went through the exact same thing last year when I applied nowhere but to MIT and got rejected, I gave up and decided that I will not continue my education, and then I changed my mind and went to a stupid school in the UK, I had the worst experience ever there, and then I transfered back to Saudi Arabia where my family lives, and had an even worse experience, and just recently, I got rejected from 6 universities and only accepted to Penn SEAS, which is no Wharton, but I'm still extremely happy with that and never felt better about myself, at least in the end I got accepted in a school that I wanted to go to.
None of this would've happened to me if I applied somewhere else other than MIT, but who knows, maybe MIT wasn't meant to be a good thing for me.
Anyways chanman, I know how you feel now, but just forget it and get over it NOW, don't even think about it. I started having headaches and high blood pressure since the day that I got rejected from MIT, and I wish that I just didn't care when I got rejected, but instead I kept beating myself about it.
You'll never know when something good is going to happen to you, maybe Wharton isn't the best for you. One day will come when you will have something better than you ever dreamed of, because you deserve it, and that's when you will regret this time that you wasted on depression and grief.</p>

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<p>
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and after reading all of your materials, it seems you go a little "over the top"

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<p>what does this mean?</p>

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<p>RejectedfromMIT - lol @ your boobs essay. I guess Penn adcoms really have a sense of humor. Where else did you apply and not get in?</p>

<p>chanman: look at your thread from a year ago. That same vibe of "Wharton or bust" is still here. Wharton kids will be successful whether they go to Wharton or not, whereas you define success completely based on Wharton. If this makes sense, Wharton doesn't want people who NEED it to succeed.</p>

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<p>Carnegie Mellon, Stanford, Columbia, Johns Hopkins and USC</p>

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"It was not until my first year of college that I finally learned the most important lesson in life. During my first year, I was disappointed that Michigan’s environment could not provide me with the inspiration to learn. I felt that I was more challenged and motivated in high school, because I could not find the same niche of students at my level of learning enthusiasm. I blamed Michigan because I thought that its student body was not dedicated to learning."

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"I realized that what he told me made sense: Michigan does not lack an enthusiastic student body. It is I that lack motivation; it is I that need change. "

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"I understand that this is a personal weakness that I must overcome. It is not Michigan’s or anyone else’s responsibility to provide the perfect environment for my self-discovery."

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” At Michigan, I am impressed by its faculty and students. Math wizards and future Picassos are common to find around the Michigan campus. All students work hard to learn and accomplish as much as possible, to take advantage of every opportunity. I find myself working even more than I did in my high school years.”

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I want to be part of Penn because its deeper dedication to academics and the student community will sufficiently motivate me.

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<p>So how does this help explain why Michigan was not a good fit for you? You just finished explaining that Michigan students are in fact motivated and dedicated to learning. Do you really not see the contradiction that’s prevalent in all of your essays? And you don’t justify why you think Penn has a “deeper dedication” to academics, besides stating the number of classes available at both schools.</p>

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"I have always been a mischievous kid. Running around the house, climbing on drawers, wrestling with friends—all of that was acceptable, as Mom and Dad would continuously watch over me to keep me from trouble. However, I never listened to their rules, because I always thought that I could control all my actions"

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"All my life, I have always been a stubborn person. "

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<p>This does not exactly give the adcom officers a good overall sense of you as a person, no matter how hard you try to convince them that you've changed.</p>

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"These are scars that will remain with me wherever I go and whatever I do. I look at myself and these scars with great shame. But every time I walk out of my house—every time I see other students and professors—these scars do not see light, for they are now well covered by my maturity."

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<p>Maturity implies the ability to deal with one's problems and situations. This means that life will be full of obstacles and conflicts. You need to get over the rejection, pick yourself up, and move on with your life. "Wharton has been my dream school. I tried my best, really, but I am still a failure."<--that's not the attitude anyone would expect from a mature person.</p>

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"Every action I take—every **step

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I take—every breath I take. I think before I act."

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"In my sophomore and junior years of high school, my grades and standardized test scores suffered horribly."

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“Penn will lift me, inspire me, and turn my weaknesses to strengths.”

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<p>This is what I meant earlier by “over the top”. Your essays tend to come on a bit strong and seem to exaggerate a lot of things. And you want to explain how Penn will do all these things more clearly, instead of just stating that all of these things will happen.</p>

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<p>Dude, you dominated UMich gradewise, why give that up?! Your scores, stats, passions... I think it's clear you are a smart guy with a lot of dreams, as corny as that sounds.</p>

<p>I glanced over your essays a bit. There were many random typos/grammatical issues. I won't get into detail unless you'd like me to, but usually you should ensure that your essays are free of these errors. It shows that you took the time to carefully proofread what you're submitting. Given that you are applying as a college student, this is even more vital.</p>

<p>First Experience Essay: I felt like you brought to light more negative issues than positive ones. You say that you came to college and blamed it for your lack of motivation to learn. Then, only through a friend were you able to shift this opinion (to me, this line doesn't indicate any sort of mature observations to lead you to this new conclusion. It just seems like he told you "you're wrong, dude" and you simply said "ok, I'll agree with you." There's no evidence given to reveal your insights or why you agreed with him all of a sudden, after years of operating under your old mindset, if that makes sense). Odds are, for a mature epiphany this late in the game, your honest opinion has not changed as much as you insinuate, and I think this is supported by the way you have responded to this rejection. I am probably not articulating this very well, but basically this essay said to me "I have been stubborn for most of my life up until maybe a year ago, and I didn't use resources correctly over at UMich." UMich is a great school, and usually education is what you make of it. There are plenty of people at other schools who are really resourceful and could kick the ass of a Wharton student who doesn't fully use his or her own resources any day! If anything, this essay makes your friend look good.</p>

<p>Letter of Explanation 2: "Business management fascinates me. Not finance. Not real estate. Not accounting." I don't think the adcoms are going to like the fact that you're wanting to go to Wharton already claiming to dislike some of the major elements of the Wharton core. Just a red flag, is all, even if you already have the credit for certain courses. It just weakens the strength of the "Why Wharton?" question. Inappropriate application does not help much subconsciously, either, despite the apology, because it does not seem to be too compatible with this idea of newfound maturity and thinking carefully before acting. It seems to lend more credence to the idea that not enough research was done, which to me seems pretty vital considering that you are applying after being rejected once before. Anything subpar at the senior-application level would look worse at the college-application level.</p>

<p>Why Penn/Why Transfer: I'd say the same thing that others have said above. </p>

<p>In general, I just get a very iffy vibe from the essays. I could be COMPLETELY wrong, but this is merely my own opinion and what I see. I think it's clear you're a smart dude, but I think there are much better ways to illustrate your passions. Too many things were over the top, or things were being emphasized in the wrong places.</p>

<p>Anyways, don't give up on UMich. If what you've said in your essays is, in fact, true, then surely you will not give up your chance to further your education. Yes, Penn has many resources, but so does UMich. I know what it's like to feel what you are feeling now, but don't let it get you down too much. I apologize if I am sounding harsh: If you are dropping out, and were merely using UMich as a transfer port to Wharton, then it makes me feel like everything you said in your essays was somehow not true. It discredits all your references to passion. Anyhow, rejection sucks -- I was rooting for you! But don't give up on UMich!</p>

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<p>Chanman, undergrad is not that big of a deal. Just stick with mich, dominate, get a good job for a few years and go to Wharton -- or Harvard, etc.-- for an MBA. In the job market, where you went for graduate school will matter way more than where you went for undergrad. You're only a failure if you give up.</p>

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<p>I think it's pretty bad that you got rejected, however, UMich is a great school and dropping out was not a very good move, especially since you had a 4.0. I guess it really is a crapshoot....</p>

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<p>can't believe you dropped out of UMich. but anyway, i don't think you really separated yourself and made yourself stand out from other applicants. yeah, you have stellar grades.. but who doesn't?</p>

<p>you really didn't show that you had anything 'special' to offer to the campus of penn.</p>

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<p>dude, you have all of your values and priorities completely in the wrong places. you seem very arrogant and cynical for somebody who still has the opportunities that thousands of kids would kill for. UMich is a dream school for tons of kids, and the business school has many accolades. I can already tell from the typos in your essays that you were too proud to allow anybody to proofread them because you were so headstrong about "wharton or bust" and when that opportunity was denied to you, you threw in the towel. Success is 99% perspiration, 1% inspiration, as Edison said. The fact that you are giving up based on name brands is cowardly. (and what's more ironic is that the name brand you are in, Michigan, is very high quality to begin with). You need to get your head out of the sand, man.</p>