<p>Hi,
1. Is it harder to get in if I am from NYC?
2. How often do you come home(for NY students)
3. Any tips/perks for RD applicants like myself thats unique to Stanford? For example, some people say Stanford take essays more seriously, etc. </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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<li>as far as i know, yes - all three of the top students at my school, which is on that top HYP feeder list, got the D.</li>
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<p>Agrophobic I know 3 dumb kids from NY, NJ and CT all got into Stanford. one guy and two girls. The guy never talked to anybody and has an antique china shoe collection!! ( whacko) The only hook for the girls I can think of is their noses one of the girls won spelling contests
( real interesting). Its easier to get in from the NY NJ CT. Ihateapps you should meet these people you would change your opinion. Stanford is not as cool as I thought after knowing who they took in.</p>
<p>If you want to throw Boston into this... then yes it is far harder for a east coast kid to get into Stanford. A girl from my school (highly regarded private school) who was top 5%, 96 GPA (all honors/AP classes), 1430 (32 ACT), 2 varsity sports + actress/singer, tons of leadership, great essays/recs got flat out rejected EA. In my opinion the 1430 screwed her over since I'm assuming GPA/SAT matters more for east coasters. I dont know the stats of other kids, but there have been plenty of good Bostonians that have gotten rejected when they prob. deserved defferal at the least.</p>
<p>The problem with all this is its personal stories, not impericale evidence. In my opinion, stanford will take a national draw. The difference in difficulty between areas is negligible, especially on an individual level</p>
<p>I didn't have great SATs, am an east coaster, and got in SCEA. I know others who live on the east coast who got in SCEA as well with similar SATs. Essays and recs are REALLY important for Stanford. They want someone with a great personality, who also happens to excel academically. Personally, I don't think it really matters where you live.</p>
<p>stanford heavily favors california applicants.</p>
<p>aside from that, my friend who goes there comes home fairly often, that is if your family can afford the plane tickets.</p>
<p>Actually my guidance counselor recommended that I apply to Stanford because I would have a leg up there compared to its east coast peers (Harvard, Yale, etc.) He said it would be easier for me because not as many east coasters bang downt he doors at Stanford than at schools closer to home. This could just be in the context of my high school though because I know not a lot of us apply there and they want more. But in the end I got into my first choice. :D</p>
<p>Look people dont get it. Its a BS game. Its a big business too. They take the good kids to make themselves look great so they can keep up the BS image. Then they take kids from all over the country... and international kisd too from wierd countries, athletes to keep the alumni business going and minorities to shut everybody up totally so nobody can say anything about the school being exclusionary. Stanford will take somebody from NY NJ CT PA as long as the essay is west coast emotional spiritual BS. They love that crap. Just write about your inner feelings amke them cry and they will take you. The more crap you pile on the more they suck it in. You have to imagine who is reading this crap? Who would want this job they dont make any money so they are into being emotional. Here is what you do- Get really wasted and write the essays then give them to somebody to correct who is good in english and sober. You will get into stanford that way! I knew a kid last year he wrote about his parrot who he was convinced was his dead grandmother who came back as a bird. he said they had the same eyes! you had to read this thing he also said he fed the bird some chinese tea and put the cage in front of something for the fang shway BS. The whole thing was a BS story and loaded with west coast spiritual crap. THEY TOOK him. Hes an idiot. He applied because he likes the buildings and wanted to go to Hollywood someday to get like Arnold Swartzenierger</p>
<p>wow I just noticed your name was Mr. Romantic. Were you going for irony?</p>
<p>Yes You Are Very Perceptive Merry Christmas.</p>
<p>don't put the school down just because you are bitter...if you thought it was such BS you wouldn't have applied in the first place (and that also for "single-choice early action.")</p>
<p>Look, don't come onto the Stanford University forum to talk smack about how Stanford is somehow an illegitimate university. Even if you were kidding or trying to be ironic, you belittle the accomplishments of everyone who worked hard enough to get in when you reduce the essay to mere "BS". I don't know about you guys, but my essays were certainly not "BS". I felt that they were an honest representation of who I was as a person.</p>
<p>Nobody denies that college, at least in some respect, is just "a big business". You claim that we "don't get it", and not to sound snobbish, but having spent enough time on collegeconfidential, it's not really that hard to "get it". The majority of us are very familiar with the things about which you speak.</p>
<p>Plus, your claims about how "corrupt" college admissions are is certainly not exclusive to Stanford. In fact, I would contend that this problem is much more prevalent with the big East Coast Ivy League schools than at the Farm.</p>
<p>Nobody denies that college, at least in some respect, is just "a big business". You claim that we "don't get it", and not to sound snobbish, but having spent enough time on collegeconfidential, it's not really that hard to "get it". The majority of us are very familiar with the things about which you speak.Plus, your claims about how "corrupt""In fact, I would contend that this problem is much more prevalent with the big East Coast Ivy League schools than at the Farm."</p>
<p>Ok so you agree. and I agree with you about the Big East Coast Ivy League schools.</p>
<p>However.. most kids take their essays to their teachers and to paid professionals to rewrite them. Everyone is looking for a HOOK. The only thing lacking is honesty. If everyone was honest the would be going to a community college in Idaho. The SAT system has schools to help jump your scores. So I stick to what I said. Hey I am going to Vanderbilt I have a friend going to Stanford at my friend's own admission is not Ivy type material. I do not think the adcoms are corrupt. I think they like to read soap operas to keep them awake. And you should fit the soap opera to the state and type of school. Conservative right topic for a religious school. West coast is new age, South is something else. THINK SOAP OPERA man and grab a beer when you are writing so it sounds like true confessions those adcoms love the BS. I am not cynical I think its cool.</p>
<p>My friend applied and got in I didnt apply I am happy at VANDY!!!!!!!!! PARTY PARTY PARTY ON!</p>
<p>I think you're just bitter, disillusional, and exaggerating</p>
<p>AGRO that would be a great idea for an essay for say OBERLIN or ANTIOCH or REED.</p>
<p>WHY AM I BITTER DIS OR DELUSIONAL AND EXAGGERATING? = hook</p>
<p>Remember, first of all, that you're operating from anecdotal evidence at best. Just because one kid got in with a dishonest essay doesn't mean all of us do.</p>
<p>I've heard from countless info sessions from various colleges, including Stanford as well as Ivy League schools, that you shouldn't "tell them what they want to hear" because we simply don't know what that is. Don't tell me these adcoms are too stupid to figure out who's completely BSing them and who's being genuine - they read thousands of apps each year, I would imagine that they have a pretty solid grasp of it.</p>
<p>You say that college admissions is a game, and that it lacks honesty, but I would contend that the overwhelming majority of people who apply to competitive colleges apply openly and honestly. Furthermore, I believe "overthinking" or "overpackaging" oneself is detrimental to your application - it makes you appear fake and dishonest.</p>
<p>And I'm glad you're happy at Vandy but you'd be kidding yourself if you don't think Vandy engages in some of the same admissions practices.</p>
<p>you guys, chill.</p>
<p>mr. romantic may have been harsh, but there's some truth in his statements. mainly: college is just a business, nothing else. do you really think they give a crap about you? be honest with yourself. why are they accepting you? they're hoping that one day you'll be rich and famous so they can add you to their "famous alums" list. </p>
<p>i hate to break it to you, but college admissions IS a game. it's a system that lacks a coherent formula, and you have to tackle your way through the various obstacles to reach your goal. whether you want to achieve your goal through honest or dishonest means is up to you. chances are, if you choose the latter of this morality, the college will find out. </p>
<p>but really, if you think that an admissions application is not a package, then you need a reality check. it is a package, not an assessment, of who you are. you sell yourself, and the college decides if they want to buy you and whether you have the potential to succeed and pay them lots of money when you grow old.</p>
<p>"most kids take their essays to their teachers and to paid professionals to rewrite them."
i have never met anyone who has actually paid someone to rewrite their college essay. somehow i think that people applying to HYPS with any hope of getting in are good enough writers on their own that they don't need to pay someone to write for them. </p>
<p>"The more crap you pile on the more they suck it in. "
and you know this how?</p>
<p>"Who would want this job they dont make any money so they are into being emotional."
see above. and ive met some people who would love to be admissions officers, just so they can have the power over the lives of teenagers. </p>
<p>"as long as the essay is west coast emotional spiritual BS"
as someone from new york who doesn't believe in god and got in early action, i find this assertion rather interesting. would you like to see my essay? i can promise you there was no "west coast emotional spiritual BS." that's strange, i wonder how i got in then? or do they have a quota for hell-bound atheists too, along with the usual minority, international, and athelete ones, do you suppose?</p>
<p>"If everyone was honest the would be going to a community college in Idaho."
now does it have to be idaho? or will any other rural state do? say southern new jersey? and does it have to be community college? if i go to seminary school will they just smack those lies right out of me too?</p>
<p>i'd agree with jimmyeatworld about the whole "overpackaging" warning, that's provided so intelligently, but i dont think anyone here will actually believe your BS, so i'll save my breath. word of advice though- dont come to the stanford forum and start trashing stanford, because you're going to really offend people. and judging from the people i've met here, you don't want to offend these guys. they'll be the ones who'll be performing open heart surgery, collecting your mortgage, and repossessing your house. they aren't the type you should **** off.</p>