Some swimming help? Where do we start?

<p>Hey everyone, I used this site during my college admissions experience (non-recruit) and need some advice for my sister. She's 13 and is entering high school next year (C/O 2019), but is a distance swimmer who's starting to come somewhat close to Junior Nats times and qualified for sectionals with many AAAA times. My mom and I don't really want to think too far in advance, but we read a few articles/talked to a few parents that said we should get started as soon as possible. We don't really know what to do to get the ball moving or when we should do get rolling re: contacting coaches. (Should we wait until the end of her sophomore year? Junior year? etc.)</p>

<p>Any advice or resources you could point us to would be greatly appreciated! <a href="http://collegeswimming.com"&gt;http://collegeswimming.com&lt;/a> has her ranked first in her state (a good swimming state), and also USA ranks her first in the state and in the top 15 nationally in all her best events (her times also put her at first compared with older age groups). </p>

<p>I know it sounds a bit crazy to post when she hasn't entered HS yet, but we just don't want to not do something that we should have done that puts her at a disadvantage, as she's expressed interest in collegiate swimming.</p>

<p>Victory, my child will be swimming as a freshman in college next year and I just went through the entire process, </p>

<p>at this time the best advice I could offer would be for you to tell your daughter to </p>

<p>“focus on keeping her grades up and practice hard to get her times down”</p>

<p>I am sure you will receive other timetables but we started researching colleges sophomore year and emailing coaches plus making unofficial visits junior year</p>

<p>hope this helps</p>

<p>Honestly, you don’t need to do anything special right now. The times and the grades(and test scores) wil speak for themselves. Swimming recruiting is done after Junior year season for the most part, and unlike team sports, your time is your time is your time. If you have good enough grades and test scores, and the best time, it’s you they want. They don’t need to see you play…</p>

<p>I would also say don’t get too far ahead of yourself. Times at 13 and times at 17 can be very different things. Let her enjoy ger success and try to take the long view. </p>

<p>The most important thing is to continue the love of the sport through having fun with her teammates and enjoying competitions right now - and focusing on get good grades as mentioned above. We once had a college coach tell us they don’t bother looking at potential swimmers until high school championships at the end of their sophomore year since a lot can change for any given swimmer. If she is as good as you say she is and continues on this basic same trajectory, trust me she will be noticed.</p>

<p>One more thing on the FWIW front. The OP references a “sister” and, accordingly, physical development issues can generate some recruiting wrinkles. While it’s great that the 13 year-old sister is closing in on some Jr Nat cuts, equally important is the trajectory of her times through high school (or, more specifically, through the summer LC season following junior year). Specifically, and this is more likely for girls than boys, times can flatten or even drop towards the end of HS and coaches are keenly aware of this. Obviously, they want to catch recruits who are still on the “upside” of their time-drop curve rather than already slowing down. Steady, continued time drops over time are critical in this regard. It’s amazing the percentage of HS girl recruits who never come anywhere near their best HS times in college. Less of an issue for boys.</p>

<p>There’s a lot of information on this site on swimming recruiting, you can read through old threads and pick up a lot of information on the timetable. Here’s a few “food for thought” items for your sister and your parent:</p>

<p>1) There is really nothing recruiting wise to do until mid-sophomore year, at which point, you might want to look at colleges on collegeswimming.com, compare her end of season (SCY) tapered times with the end of season times for that year (or the previous year) for each time. Don’t compare her times mid-season with mid-season college swim times, as college swimming is fully pointed to conference championships and NCAAs, and there are few, if any other taper meets during the season. If you find a few colleges that “fit” swim wise, start looking at academics for them, and geography.
2) Financially, swimming in college is not the way to pay for college in its entirety. Very rarely do swimmers have a full ride to college–except for the top 10-15 swimmers in the US each year, most are getting partial athletic scholarships, with financial aid or merit aid with it–or their parents are paying the difference. This is really important to note–swimming in college is a HUGE commitment–and there are a lot of swimmers’ parents paying at least half of the cost for their swimmer to attend the university.
3) Frankly, as much as I hate to say it, grades and swim times are all that matters. Guidance counselors are all for the “well rounded student athlete” that has been President of this club or participated in that community service effort, but when recruiting comes around, your sister will be asked three questions: a) swim times b) grades c) SAT/ACT scores and possibly how many APs she has taken if looking at academically elite schools. If she really wants to swim in college, studying and swimming are the way to spend her time.
4) Swim a wide variety of events. At 13, the swimmer in my family was a flyer/backstroker, she is a distance freestyler in college. At 13 she was 5’4; at 17 she was 6’0. You never know what happens when puberty ends–she could get faster, could get slower, could gain muscle, could be very skinny, could suddenly be a breaststroker. Swimming the variety of events will give her the best chance to get personal best times in something as she grows.<br>
5) College coaches know heavy yardage distance programs that create distance freestylers. Some college coaches shy away from recruiting from those programs because there is no “opportunity for improvement” for those swimmers in the college coaching restricted world (there are restrictions on numbers of hours in the pool, weight room, etc.)
6) At 13, your sister hasn’t even experienced high school swimming. She may love it, may hate it. Some coaches prefer their top athletes stay in USA Swimming year round, rather than high school.<br>
7) As a parent, I would heavily recommend minimizing the amount of doubles the swimmer commits to in high school. Our philosophy was 1 double in 9th grade, 2 in 10th, and 3 in 11/12th. This gave some natural trajectory to the improving times. It also let the swimmer sleep more–very important to get good grades.</p>

<p>And finally, I would give two pieces of advice:</p>

<p>1) don’t make life about swimming. Each swimmer is only one major injury away from never getting in the pool again. Do sleepovers, go eat pizza with friends, don’t deny all of the fun just because of the pool. Balance is important.
2) Be prepared for the challenges. Some swimmers at 13–larger for their age, fast to mature as girls, often cannot achieve the same level of trajectory in late high school–it makes swimming hard when personal bests, rankings, and other accolades begin to go to other swimmers who weren’t as fast at 13. You never know how it will go, its a journey.</p>

<p>Best of luck to the you, your family and the swimmer. College swimming can be done at many levels–D1, D2 and D3–she may be thinking D1 only right now, but by the time she is 17, may want to pursue a particular career in which D3 swimming might make more sense. </p>

<p>@swim4school - excellent post! Should be read by all young swimmers starting to think about swimming in college.</p>