<p>Ok. So I this hockey player fella in my school just recieved a phone call from Yale. Apparently Yale told him they would like it if he came and played for them. Ahhhhhhhh. Hey whatever gets you in, but still. I can't help but say I'm a little jealous. A lotta jealous.</p>
<p>There's some football player at my school who went down state; he was the team's top wr. The team lost, but he got calls from Yale, Harvard, and Princeton. Decisions, Decisions...</p>
<p>It really stinks that you can get into a school like Yale just for being a great athlete. Lebron James, for example, probabley could have gotten into Yale with 400 SATs and an essay about how he hates adcoms. Oh well, I guess I'm just jealous.</p>
<p>Yeah, there's a kid from my area who plays football and just got accepted and decided to go to yale. The thing that makes me mad is that there was an article about him in the newspaper. And we're talking a major newspaper, not just one of the dinky town ones. I have nothing against him for getting recruited, but honestly, isn't there something more important going on in the news? Grrrrrrr</p>
<p>I think the anti-athlete vibe on this site is rediculous, are you mad at musicians that get in for their talents? Or science students?</p>
<p>There's really a double standard.</p>
<p>well science (and to a lesser extent, music) is considered an academic subject, whereas sport is not.</p>
<p>i think most people here just value intellectual ability over physical ability</p>
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<p>Too bad Yale doesn't.</p>
<p>Seriously, whenever I see threads like these, I imagine pale, skinny kids afraid of the light.</p>
<p>actually im italian so i have a year long tan thank you very much.</p>
<p>"It really stinks that you can get into a school like Yale just for being a great athlete. Lebron James, for example, probabley could have gotten into Yale with 400 SATs and an essay about how he hates adcoms. Oh well, I guess I'm just jealous."</p>
<p>Too bad you don't have LeBron's talent. It's much harder to have his talent/work ethic (oh, it's not all gift) than to have high SAT's and get into Yale. </p>
<p>We need to respect athletes because they put in so much work practicing/working out. They probably get home around 6PM all exhausted and still manage to do hw and study. If you're so jealous, why don't you do it?</p>
<p>I'm not anti-athlete necessarily. It's true that athletes don't have as much time to focus on school because they're so busy with training, so they do deserve a bit of a break. The same with musicians who spend a ton of time practicing. Or someone who devotes a ton of time to a volunteer project or a job. I don't see those people getting the same breaks athletes do. I just have a problem with it being reported in the newspaper where an athlete has decided to go to school when the numerous equally qualified kids who also get in they couldn't care less about.</p>
<p>...but admitting a guy early becuase of his talents? Do colleges recruit students for nonathletic talents?</p>
<p>Ivies still have to maintain a high academic standard among athletes, and therefore I don't really think anyone getting admitted to an extremely selective private school is overly underqualified. Plus, I've been an athlete, and the time commitment and outside training is a full time job. I can respect athletes, and more power to you if you can use it as a vehicle to meet your academic dreams as well.</p>
<p>talented athletes are more valued/recruited than someone who volunteers or does something very well because a college's athletic success boosts the college's spirit and pride. I respect all the passionate non-athletes as well, but the fact is, not just anyone can be a D-I quality athlete.</p>
<p>Yeah, I mean, the athletes who get into Ivy League schools aren't just any other athlete. They are exceptional in their sports. So don't immediately form an image in your mind of that dumb jock in your school who can make a lay-up but can't add 2+2. Don't you resent it when "jocks" form images of Yale students as "nerdy pale geeks who can't throw a football?"</p>
<p>Also, isn't a college campus supposed to be a little diverse in terms of talents? Like, MIT is after all a technology-oriented/science-oriented place, but they have been making efforts to accept humanities/liberal arts majors. Does that make the non-techie students bad? No, they're just different from the crowd. Sure, they may not have 800 math's, but they are talented in other, equally important ways.</p>
<p>[Most] schools are foremost academic institutions with the primary goal to educate through academia and practice, not to win sports competitions. It's fine to honor your athletes and appreciate them for bringing pride and spirit to your school, but they shouldn't take the places of academically inclined students. In other words, schools should admit students based on who would benefit most from attending, not on who would benefit the school most. (This would go for other areas, too, such as musicianship and volunteerwork).</p>
<p>However, that's all in theory.</p>
<p>In reality, it's absolutely essential that schools maintain high morale and well-rounded reputations in order to maintain or elevate their prestige. Successful schools must make certain sacrifices to do this. And if you are one of the ones who just barely made it, it really sucks to be you.</p>
<p>supply and demand. ie: scarcity makes athletes valuable. otherwise, they wouldn't need to recruit.</p>
<p>The Ivy leagues is, after all, a sports league - primarily Division I. Ivy league schools that want to de-emphasize sports would have their kids constantly getting their butts kicked.</p>
<p>It's funny to see the image of nerdy, skinny kids of CC get jealous and angry about athletes getting into their college of choice.</p>
<p>It makes me think of the nerds at my school who can't get any girls and say "OMG, girls dont like me because i'm just too special"</p>
<p>Haha, yeah OK.</p>
<p>CC kids, you seriously have to understand that colleges want different qualities and passions. Just being an unathletic nerd and nothing else, shouldn't guarantee you admission.</p>
<p>"CC kids, you seriously have to understand that colleges want different qualities and passions. Just being an unathletic nerd and nothing else, shouldn't guarantee you admission."</p>
<p>I don't think anyone is quite understanding my view on this issue; I'm not saying that athletes shouldn't be admitted to top colleges or that athletes shouldn't go to college; for crying out loud, athletes are often very intelligent--they acquire crazy time management skills and organizaiton...and planning moves for games too...I know and agree that it's extremely intense. </p>
<p>What does get me, though, is that athletes are given special treatment for college admissions...more special treatment than those who win Siemen's or Intel; athletes are recruited because of their skills while extremely academic students aren't recruited because of their skills. </p>
<p>"are you mad at musicians that get in for their talents? Or science students"</p>
<p>I'm not mad at musicians or scientists; I'm mad because athletes are receiving preference for college admissions</p>
<p>"The Ivy leagues is, after all, a sports league"</p>
<p>agreed--afterall, it is called the Ivy League! But, rarely do I see these colleges emphasize atheletics over academics even though they were founded on atheletics. What surprises me is that places like Swarthmore, where athletics are just about never emphasized (no football team, btw) require students to pass swimming tests before they graduate. However, in the Ivy League (read sports league) never have I heard of such an athletic survival skills requirement.</p>
<p>Once again, I'm not trying to start any arguements here or any anti-athlete semitism.</p>