<p>Someone once wrote on this board:
"CC students have better chances of transferring into an ivy because they have a more compelling reason to transfer."</p>
<p>To me, for the most part, that statement sounds like wishful thinking - at best. (no offense)</p>
<p>The logic is as follows:
If a student from a private university and a student from a CC both apply to the same ivys, with the supposition that they have the statistics, reasons, and et cetera, the admission officers would be MORE willing to accept the CC candidate?</p>
<p>At my university, Rutgers, there are plenty of CC transfers who have over 3.8 GPA. However, most of them are pulling B's and C's because they can not handle the work here. By the way, Rutgers is a pretty "easy" school.</p>
<p>So why would an ivy league school be so much MORE compelled to take a CC student instead of a private/state school student if the admissions officers know that CC students won't do as well?</p>
<p>Maybe I am wrong. Comments? Insights? Insults?
Explain to me. Please.</p>
<p><strong>Disclaimer</strong> This is not an inflammatory post to all you CC people, just a logical inquiry.</p>
<p>I do not know if your key statement is statistically true.l First of all, ivies accept very few transfers. Second of all, very few CC students even apply to ivies as their transfer choices. Both of those statements I have seen statistically discussed. </p>
<p>I do know that a student transferring from a college where he has depleted the resources for what he wants to do and shows an extraordinary interest and passion for that interest has a better chance transferring into a college that has that particular interest as a specialty, than someone from another ivy who just doesn't like Penn and thinks Yale would be a better atmosphere. But though the grades in college, reason for transfer, and the ability of the transfer school to offer what the transfer needs are the most important issues for transfers, anyone who is a transfer to a top school also has to demonstrate that he can handle the workload at that school. They still want those SATs and highschool records, and they will scrutinize the courses taken in college and the quality of those course and the quality of the colllege. There are ccs and there are ccs, with varying degrees of difficulty and that is an important issue. Some ccs are very successful feeders to good 4 year colleges and those schools will be held higher in esteem than a cc where the transfers do not do well at the old state U.</p>
<p>I think its an awfully huge generalization to assume that CC students don't (or wouldn't, upon arrival) do as well as university transfers. As was mentioned, perhaps the preperation offered to CC students varies (vastly, apparently) among states, because most transferring CC students in my state tend to have higher graduation rates than freshman-admitted university students and are as present in university honors programs as the 4-year students. </p>
<p>I don't have an answer for your question because I have little interest in the ivies and haven't done the research, but perhaps you should keep a more open mind. To assume that transferring university students are more qualified or more inclined to succeed at an ivy than CC students is shortsighted and, regardless of your protests to the contrary, fairly inflammatory. I'm sure there are plenty of qualified CC transfers who would probably do very well at an ivy league school and I really don't think that it's your place to judge whether or not they can handle the work. It's largely true that most CC students don't apply to ivies, so you can probably be assured that the ones that do are aptly qualified. </p>
<p>For the record, I also disagree with the statement you quoted. I don't think that any single particular group of people has a better chance than another when it comes to transferring to the ivies. It's an entirely individual thing and people really should stop looking at it in terms of their (or others') status and should start focusing on how they can ensure their own admittance.</p>
<p>I am a CC student, but I'm part of an Honors School. It's actually pretty rough, and I take a heavy courseload, and I have a 3.7</p>
<p>One semester I enrolled in non honors courses at the business school and was so bored out of my mind from being taught like I was a pre schooler I withdrew and started working in the city. It took a lot for me to finally go back to school this semester but now I'm taking 19 honors credits and have a 4.0 for this semester. </p>
<p>During high school, I took courses from two universities - Long Island University and Stonybrook University. Trust me when I say the work I did at these respected universities doesn't compare at all to my experience in the Honors Liberal Arts Program at Suffolk Community College. </p>
<p>My point is that if college admissions actually judge community college applicants as less intelligent or incapable of performing academically well at a "real school", they are horribly misinformed. If I wanted to go take the easy way out, I would have gone to Stonybrook Univeristy for my first two years.</p>