<p>heres a qoute that I recently heard,</p>
<p>"Try not to be a man of success, but a man of value." - Albert Einstien</p>
<p>I am both 10 char</p>
<p>lol</p>
<p>What is value anyways?</p>
<p>Really depends on your culture, on what type of value.</p>
<p>no worries about following that motto here! :)</p>
<p>Quotes like that make me realize how truly amazing I am :D</p>
<p>great quote...</p>
<p>Sounds nice but since theres no reasoning behind it, its just a random opinion and thus has no persuasive/reasonable/truth value whatsoever.</p>
<p>Albert Einstein was a scientist, not a philosohper, and thus using his name to strengthen that quote is easily dismantled by a logical mind.</p>
<p>But that doesn't mean its not a 'nice' quote, just unproven and a mere opinion.</p>
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Sounds nice but since theres no reasoning behind it, its just a random opinion and thus has no persuasive/reasonable/truth value whatsoever.</p>
<p>Albert Einstein was a scientist, not a philosohper, and thus using his name to strengthen that quote is easily dismantled by a logical mind.</p>
<p>But that doesn't mean its not a 'nice' quote, just unproven and a mere opinion.
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<p>"A witty saying proves nothing." -Voltaire</p>
<p>Funny thing is, the fact that it comes from Voltaire seems to lend it so much more credence. </p>
<p>If the quote went "A witty saying proves nothing." -Random dude</p>
<p>most people would think, the guy is just a hater.</p>
<p>^ so? That's just rhetoric, which is useful for convincing the masses, but not useful to delude oneself into thinking - if Einstein told me white people were black or something as such, I'd say he was a moron. For rhetorical purposes citing a authority lends an argument credidence - but for true 'reasoning', only if you think that person is a God who's every word is pure absolute truth, does having a so-called authority do anything.</p>
<p>If a random dude said something like that, and it was evaluated to be correct, in the rational mind it would be the same as if Voltaire or George Washington themself said it. Of course, this is only reasoning-wise.</p>
<p>For rhetoric, citing authorities is the pwnz0rs.</p>
<p>George Washington was a good leader but in reality pretty stupid. I realize that that's blasphemy, and I don't care.</p>
<p>Well, the fact that Albert Einstein WAS a successful man lends his statement credence, doesn't it? Though we can't objectively state whether or not he was a man of value, the main idea of the quote (IMO) is that success is not the most important thing. And isn't someone who has experienced success the best judge of that?</p>
<p>^ True, but then you'd be basing all the support of the statement in trusting one person - basically how in North Korea they all trust Kim Il-jong because he's so 'amazing' (--). I never disagreed with the quote, I just suddenly felt logically-inspired to make a rant about how not to assume basic things without 'true' support. </p>
<p>I actually read about this fallacy in a logic book I studied, which was what made me so excited =)</p>
<p>The OP's point was not in who said the quote, but the quote itself, don't you think?</p>
<p>Think about how this sounds:</p>
<p>"Try not to be a man of success, but a man of value." - Paris Hilton</p>
<p>It's funny, though, that I've never heard of an "Albert Einstien."</p>
<p>Minor6th, thanks for being on the same page as me. Did you guys miss the OPs lack of argument? The OP wasn't trying to prove anything, he was giving us something to think about. Stop arguing to seem smart and chill out.</p>
<p>P.S. I totally agree about George Washington, lol</p>
<p>uhhh....okay.</p>
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What is value anyways?
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that's obviously why you're not einstein duh</p>
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Stop arguing to seem smart and chill out.
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<p>You are just angry because you know that it actually was wise skepticism. Personally I believe that quote is meaningless because it's so vague that it makes itself 'sound smart' without really saying much. The words are so incredibely general that each person just makes up his or her own meaning for it, and thus it lacks meaning.</p>
<p>^ Einstein reminds me of Aristotle. Persuasive and smart, but screwed all of his theories up like T. of relativity. Just an observation here.</p>