From Clemson website:
https://www.clemson.edu/financial-aid/residency/
Maryland is part of the Academic Common market. If a pulic college in your state doesn’t have a specific major you can get in state tuition from one that does.
^with the caveat it has to be a major you really want, because if you switch to another major, your tuition becoms regular OOS. In addition, it’s tough to find a major not offered in MD.
True for Utah, not true for Wyoming (only way to change residency is for parents to move there or be an independent student). However, Wyoming is fairly inexpensive for OOS, and there are OOS scholarships (Rocky Mtn Scholars program) automatically awarded for gpa/scores.
There are small D1 schools. Presbyterian has 1200 students Even the service academies only have ~5000 (although those are ~5000 pretty athletic souls). D1 does not mean big student population, but I agree that if he’s open to a ‘regular’ major (bio, chem, history) and not something super specialized, he’ll be fine.
It sounds like you live in the mid-Atlantic area? Does he want to stay around there? W. Virginia, Marshall, Towson, James Madison?
OSU? IU?
@mommdc well tell that to my brother who is currently enrolled as an in state tuition student. Again, they only do this for students with good grades and test scores.
^you’re not understanding how it works then (it’s okay because you’re still in HS, and the goal of these forums is to educate, but you do have to show understanding of what adults here are saying, as your tone is a bit adversarial); your brother got a scholarship that waives OOS tuition. It doesn’t make him a resident and if his grades slip or when he transfers, he’ll revert to the OOS rate. The only states where you can easily become a resident for tuition purpose are Missouri and Utah.WUE states have special discounts for their residents going to other WUE state universities, and that doesn’t make them residents, but it does mean lower tuition costs. In some states, such as Texas, Minnesota, New York, or South Carolina, if you work for a year in the state without taking any class, you can then be classified as a resident. Other states, like California, don’t even classify such students are resident, their tuition rate depends solely on where their parents live.
Look at the schools in the SEC and the Big Ten conferences. The SEC schools should be cheap.
I question why, considering most schools with “big time” football are not great academically, with a handful of exceptions (ND, Northwestern, Michigan, Stanford, etc.). The only decent school in the SEC is Vandy, and it is hardly a “prestigious” school.
Maybe he is looking for good schools and not necessarily ‘great’ schools. Something that is a fit for him.
I would think Michigan and Stanford would also not be affordable.
^Guys, stop recommending schools like Vanderbilt, Stanford, or Michigan to a student with a 3.3/1200.
The University of Minnesota might be worth a look:
- Strong academics
- Liberal
- Not hot… you avoid the heat and humidity of the South.
- Fairly low OOS price
- B1G sports. The biggest are football, basketball and hockey. Minnesota is also a wrestling power. Many don’t know it, but Minnesota has six national championships in football and a bunch in hockey.
@prezbucky, we also have family in Minneapolis. It’ll be interesting to see how he reacts to schools when he starts looking seriously. The football thing may become less important.
If “decent” is defined as elite schools, there are not that many of those schools around. It does not look like the student that this thread is about has the academic credentials to get into those schools anyway (regardless of NCAA division).
Minnesota is increasing OOS tuition fairly substantially so it will no longer be considered “fairly low.”
http://www.twincities.com/2016/02/12/umn-tuition-target-12800-nonresident-hike-over-four-years/
According to the article, it will go from $22,260 to $35,000 over a four year period. Wisconsin has a similar hike in place.
Note that NCAA D1 FBS P5 conferences are heavily populated by state flagship universities, except those in NY, DE, the northeast, and the mountain west. Going down the divisions (D1 FBS non-P5, D1 FCS, D2, D3), the academic prominence tends to go down, except for two D1 FCS conferences and some D3 conferences.
“Vice provost Bob McMaster warned that the UMinn doesn’t have the same national cachet as the universities of Wisconsin, Michigan or Washington, so the cost of tuition is a particularly big factor in recruiting nationally”
@informative Vandy is not prestigious? Seriously??
@prezbucky ‘Minnesota has six national championships in football.’ Yes, but that was in the 17th Century. (sorry, Gophers, I know, it’s 6 more than my alma mater has, but nobody beats UNC for cheating).
@mstomper I read post 4, which stated 'big time football" should be towards the bottom of the list of factors when deciding to pick a college… ’ I almost immediately clicked ‘like’, because, what does D1 football have to do with academics? Then I read further and realized how narrow and stupid I was being. Prime had it right when he said ‘Wanting D1 football & school spirit is as valid a soft criterion as wanting an urban campus location or wanting a balanced male:female ratio.’
Every student has a bias: maybe a pretty campus, or in a city, or not in the South. Wanting big football is totally valid. I second Appalachian State as a match, though I don’t know about tuition.
^ Back in Renaissance times, they were known as the Gophers Gilt probably.
You know, they have their “Ski-U-Mah” cheer. Going back even farther, I imagine that would have made a pretty frightening battle cry had it been loosed from the mead-soaked throats of Viking raiders.
And UNC could be a great option if OP were to get in and benefit from the good OOS aid offered.