Soooo upset about DD's housing!!

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<p>My daughter is an incoming freshman this fall.
She requested Queen's Court and a double room. She doesn't party, drink or smoke
and has been raised in Catholic Schools and really wanted to be in Queen's Court.</p>

<p>She received an email today stating she is in Martyr's Court and is in a TRIPLE.</p>

<p>I plan on calling RL on Monday but it states that housing decisions are final.</p>

<p>Just very upset about this. Not only did she not get the dorn she requested but she specifically asked not to be put in a triple and that is where they put her....?!</p>

<p>We are paying the 50,000 out of pocket, no loans, and only 10,000 in merit aid. I had hoped for the private school tuition, she would not need to deal with a triple.</p>

<p>Does Martyr's even have triple rooms. I see very small rooms and only single/doubles are listed on website. Plus, it also houses sophmores. If she is rooming with sophomores, we seriously may need to re-think this decision!</p>

<p>Very frustrated!!!</p>

<p>Just not a good day. DD had wisdom teeth out this morning and came home and passed out. We were terrified. Then to find out this darn inofrmation....argghhhh!~</p>

<p>Any thoughts??</p>

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<p>take it easy please. just call them up and figure stuff out.</p>

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<p>Don’t worry! A good number of the triples in my year were de-tripled, after one semester at the latest. I started off in a triple, but thankfully I was able to switch roommates before the year started. It’s frustrating now, but most students learn to deal with it, and many end up getting along great with two roommates. </p>

<p>Calling Reslife would be a good idea. It’s not impossible to get a room in Queens after decisions have been handed out. Kids get off wait lists, transfer, decide to commute, etc. Your daughter may even be able to find someone who did not want to dorm in Queens and switch with her. (There’s a Fordham class of 2014 on Facebook where she might be able to do this.) Although, if you do call Reslife, make sure it’s YOU, the parent, and not the daughter. Reslife listens to parents much more intently than they listen to students.</p>

<p>On the other hand, though, your daughter should not be too worried about being in a non-wellness dorm. I’ve known many other students from my freshman dorm who abstained from drinking and partying. And I know students in the wellness dorms who party more than your average college student. Hopefully she has good roommates who respect that she doesn’t drink, and that she probably will not want them drinking in her room. (But if they don’t-- and she can talk to them about this now-- that’s a definite reason why she needs to switch.) Learning to live in situations like these may just be another part of the college learning experience, and your daughter will be able to find friends and students like here at any of the dorms at Fordham. </p>

<p>On a different note, I’m actually incredibly surprised at the number of triples I’ve heard of for this year’s incoming class, and I’m not surprised that you’re angered by a triple in the tiny Martyrs rooms. I suspect that the yield this year may have been higher than expected. There should have been less triples because they opened up Martyrs to freshman, and Martyrs has much more room that Hughes ever did. Either way, I wish the best of luck to your daughter, and hopefully everything ends up working fine!</p>

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<p>since they built those two new dorms for upperclassmen, i believe the other older dorms are now more for freshmen as well. I’m sure they wouldn’t place your daughter with sophomores, but rather other freshmen, since typically past your first year you can request your roommates as an upperclassmen, and they wouldn’t just mix and match years like that.</p>

<p>also, just because she’s not in queen’s court doesn’t mean that her dorm will be going rampant with crazy partying and stuff. there are still rules in the other dorms against alcohol in the dorm if you’re under 21, etc. also, when she filled out housing didn’t she have to put down her preference of lifestyle? i remember when i filled out my LC housing application i had to put down if i smoke, go out a lot, what times i go to bed, and all of that, so they know not to place students with people that are completely opposite them in lifestyle.</p>

<p>because fordham is trying to give as many people housing as possible, they do need to make rooms triples sometimes. last year i was in a forced triple when i requested a double, and it ended up fine. my roommates and i developed space saving techniques, talked about what we needed out of each other (for example, quiet time at certain times and whether or not we are allowed to turn on the light if someone is sleeping) and by the end of the year i’m really glad i was placed into a triple… it also saves you money in housing! </p>

<p>if they do not switch your daughter into QC, i suggest having your daughter find her roommates on facebook, talk to them a bit, and see how she feels. hopefully, they’ll be really nice people and similar to her, and they’ll get along beautifully. if it seems like there’s going to be a huge problem (and i mean more so than one of the roommates claims she likes to occasionally drink, which i’m gonna be honest with you, who doesn’t in college? but if your daughter forsees a serious conflict in personalities) talk to the residence office and see if she can get switched before she moves in.</p>

<p>finally, there’s so many different places your daughter can go to hang out and chill besides her room at rose hill. there’s tons of study and social lounges in the dorms, as well as in other dorms and mcginley… and eddie’s parade to hang out on when it’s nice outside. also, i’m sure your daughter will meet tons of friends within her dorm and in different dorms where she can always hang out in their rooms, if she really needs to get away or something.</p>

<p>all i’m saying is it’s not the end of the world. adjusting to a less than desirable living situation is part of the college experience, and i’m sure at the end of the year, she’ll even forget this was a problem to begin with.</p>

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<p>Sorry things have not started off on a great foot. In past years Martyr’s was strictly for sophomores, but now as I understand it, the dorm will be segregated by wing with a specific area for freshman and a specific area for sophomores. Hope that helps a little. It never hurts to call ResLife and see if you can facilitate a change, but just so you know, it is unlikely that someone will switch out of Queens. Good luck with everything.</p>

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<p>Wait…what’s wrong with a freshman being in the same dorm as a sophomore? Assuming it’s an all girls dorm? You’re PO’d over this minuscule thing?</p>

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<p>The entire housing situation is more in flux this year than in past years. Almost every year Fordham has to triple at Rose Hill for a semester or longer because they have a larger yield than they anticipated. (its very common at colleges…some schools are forced to rent hotel rooms to sort it out…enticing upperclassmen to leave the dorms and other options.) This year, Fordham’s acceptance rate was near 49%. I don’t know the reasons, but it is what it is. And their yield, while still problematic for selectivity purposes, was larger than last year. Hughes is being converted to a new home for CBA. Martyrs will have some freshmen this year, but I think they have that planned to keep the freshmen close together. Fordham dorms are all coed, but they separate the genders by wings or floors. No cohabitation allowed. And building two new Seniors Only dorms, made more room in Ohare and Walsh and Finley for upperclassmen. Thus, they have a big problem on their hands and its a year of big changes. Part of college is learning to deal with problems and making the best of a situation. It will all work out. There are people in Tierney who didnt even request it, or Queens! That is the bad news. The good news is you will have a large incoming class of smart, diverse and outgoing students anxious to meet you and become buddies, study mates or whatever.</p>

<p>And finally, kids spend time in many dorms, visiting friends, studying etc.</p>

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<p>I don’t think anything is wrong in and of itself with having freshman and soph. share a dorm. It just depends on how the school sets up its housing (ex. at my husband’s college you stay in the same dorm all 4 years so members of all classes live there - he liked it that way). However, Fordham has traditionally separated freshmen from upperclassmen I guess to (hopefully) create a bond between members of the incoming class. It worked well for my S so no complaints but there can be definite benefits to knowing upperclassmen. </p>

<p>The new dorms are not for seniors only, although it is primarily seniors. As it works out O’Hare is mostly soph., Walsh is mostly juniors and the new dorms are mostly seniors. Martyr’s will be used for freshman and overflow housing. Also I don’t think that anyone got into Queens who didn’t request it since students must write a letter before they can be accepted into that dorm.</p>

<p>But back to the OP, although the dorm situation is less than perfect, it is important to try to go in with a good attitude. Hopefully she will find great friends not only in her room and her dorm, but all over campus!</p>

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<p>Happymom:</p>

<p>I would like to know your source on that. I was told specifically that Campbell was exclusively for Seniors and the theme is about “moving on to the working world” and having employers come in, give presentations, helping with resume writing and finding interviews etc.</p>

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<p>For better or worse, my source is my son. He said he knows a couple of sophmores and some juniors who have rooms in the new dorms. Some of these non-seniors are in rooms where people in different classes are living together so some seniors are in the suite, but he also believes that some rooms will be made up of all non-seniors. He said that a number of seniors left the lottery for the new dorm once the suites with single bedrooms were all taken (he guessed they chose to move off campus to get single bedrooms) so non-seniors had to be taken in to fill the rooms. Perhaps all of the non-seniors are in Salice/Conley not Campbell, but I’m not sure if they could organize it that way since it is a lottery. As a junior his group and a friends’ group had lottery numbers which could have got a room in the new dorms but they chose to go to Walsh to be in the same dorm as most of their friends. Again, this is what my S told me last spring when the lottery was taking place. This is not information that I got from ResLife or anything so take it for what it is worth. The new dorms will be primarily seniors I’m sure so I don’t see why they would not run the program you heard about.</p>

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<p>Of course the best source to get the facts would be to make a quick call to ResLife.</p>

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<p>It well could be. I heard that they were reserving the lottery for Campbell and Salice to seniors, its not that hard to do. But like Walsh and OHare, sometimes a Junior will be among the groups of friends that join into an apartment or triple. It doesnt matter to me, frankly. My D was in Walsh last year with some seniors in her group of friends. Anyone who can figure out reslife is likely a magician. Everytime someone thinks they have it figured out, you hear about another anomaly. LOL.</p>

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<p>Hi suamom,</p>

<p>At any college, housing is so tricky because there are so many students and factors to match up, and the staff at ResLife really wants to try to make everyone happy. However, being a senior now, I know that Queens Court is very, very popular, and unfortunately, there are just too many great matches for the dorm to house there.</p>

<p>The same goes for triples. Not many people request triples, and unfortunately, yes, triples in Martyrs are forced triples. That being said, I do know a lot of people who thought they would hate a forced triple who actually loved it. And, as sunshowers23 said, lots of forced triples can be detripled throughout the year.</p>

<p>As for Martyrs as a dorm, it is new that it is housing freshmen this year, so information on the Fordham site may be outdated. I believe that they have sectioned off the upperclassmen from the freshmen, so it will very much be treated like all other freshmen living situations. I personally know some of the RA’s in Martyrs, and they are all excellent and will have great programs for the residents, which is great, especially for students who choose not to party, drink, and smoke. I had so much fun at the programs my RA’s threw my freshman year!</p>

<p>I understand that this doesn’t make the situation perfect, but I hope it alleviates your worries a little to know that, as a Fordham senior, there are a lot of options for those who choose to be substance free, and Martyrs is not terrible. If you would like, feel free to send me a message and I can personally answer any questions or concerns that your daughter may have via email. I can even try to talk to some of her RA’s and get some information about the dorm from them as well.</p>

<p>(And PS, I got my wisdom teeth out the day I got my housing assignments too… isn’t that funny?)</p>

<p>Best of luck to your daughter starting her freshmen year!</p>

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<p>I sympathize with the OP. :(</p>

<p>My S’s LC housing assignment just came in and his is also tripled and did NOT want to be. He is in a 5 person suite so he did get the 2 bedroom apartment apparently. Do they ever de-triple at LC or will he have to suck it up for the entire year? I assume that I will not be paying the full price for room & board now and I’m wondering how much less I will pay. I have already paid in full and my August 5 statement did not indicate a credit so does anyone know how they adjust for this?</p>

<p>BTW, his wisdom teeth come out next Wednesday.</p>

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<p>you will get an adjustment and credit for any over payment. Student accts will take care of that. They often offer you either a credit for next semester or ask if you want a check cut to you. Not saying you will get one, because I dont know how they configure the costs for LC housing, whereas normal RH dorms are doubles and if you triple you do get a discount. </p>

<p>As for wisdom teeth, been there done that twice with 2D’s. Both went very well and they were both munching away a week later. All four impacted removed at once. But I have heard stories where other people are still having issues two weeks later. Its really important to avoid dry socket syndrome (infection in the empty sockets). </p>

<p>Good luck with both these issues.</p>

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<p>The new dorms have a lot of all-junior groups living in them. There just wasn’t enough demand from seniors. I actually know of an all-sophomore group living there as well.</p>

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<p>Correct. I found out that a lot of seniors for some weird reason had a notion of “going to singles” or not at all. So when they didnt get singles in Campbell or Salice they just said forget about it. </p>

<p>That does not however change the m.o. of the theme at either dorm. They will both be emphasizing “transitioning” to the real world or graduate school for seniors. </p>

<p>Frankly, I dont know who would want to pass up on a new dorm with new kitchen appliances and laundry machines etc. But to each his/her own.</p>

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<p>Hi sandkmom-</p>

<p>I thought this might help: this link has all of the LC housing rates [Undergraduate</a> Housing](<a href=“Fordham University”>Fordham University)</p>

<p>The rates are as follows:
Double Room Rate $13,015
($6,507.50 per semester)</p>

<p>Triple Room Rate $9,320
($4,660 per semester/freshman only)</p>

<p>So, you will be credited for the roughly $4000 difference for the year. If he gets detripled, then they will work out the payment for the amount of time that he was in the triple.</p>

<p>Hope that helps!</p>

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<p>Thanks guys for the help. He’s over it now and I certainly don’t mind a refund! :)</p>

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<p>Talk of Fordham forced triples reminds me of this summer 2008 thread.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/fordham-university/380185-when-does-fordham-notify-re-housing-roommates-dorm-assignments.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/fordham-university/380185-when-does-fordham-notify-re-housing-roommates-dorm-assignments.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;