Soph. boy / 3.0 student / dyslexic / wants to be an engineer / school is tough!!

<p>Actually the Ivies do. They are funded through alumni donations.</p>

<p>"Like other Ivy League schools, Penn does not award scholarships based on academic or athletic merit.</p>

<p>All aid is based solely on financial need."
from - [Grants</a> and Scholarships](<a href=“Submit My Documents | Penn Student Registration & Financial Services| Penn Srfs”>Submit My Documents | Penn Student Registration & Financial Services| Penn Srfs)</p>

<p>Actually the Ivies do. They are funded through alumni donations.</p>

<p>No, they don’t. They’re not allowed to.</p>

<p>University of Pennsylvania Women’s Rowing - No Athletic Scholarships offered</p>

<p>Your friend is either mistaken or is too embarrassed to admit that her D’s aid was from need. Or, maybe the student is at Penn State?</p>

<p>And, seriously, do you think alums would be funding “full rides” for crew?</p>

<p>cnp55, true, true, that is awesome for your child. the mandatory study, etc. and the peer aspect, not to mention, he loves the sport. I certainly will investigate this option, but Ivies are out of our league. I know several athletic recruits now for football at Ivies and there are minimum ACT of 30, etc. Don’t think an academic pressure cooker would be good, even as an athlete. PM me the school name, if you don’t mind. I am keeping a running list.</p>

<p>University of Denver has a strong construction management and also a lot of support for students with LDs.</p>

<p>I’ve heard on the CC engineering forum that RIT is well set up for students with learning disabilities, so worth looking into.</p>

<p>Just rereading your first post, Can you break down his grades? To get into engineering your son is going to need great grades in math and science. A 3.0 is on the low side, unless lang and humanities pulled his ave down. Oh, and if he is taking geometry now, he should end up in calc by sr year, if not jr year. I just mentioned the calc BC in a previous post because it would lighten his load in college. Have you looked at the suggested curriculum for eng students in the schools of interest?</p>

<p>I recommend getting a college education in engineering rather than being a tech without college. It sounds like he would be a good engineer, but many jobs would be closed to him without a college education. Yes, it’s always possible to get promoted and Edison didn’t have an engineering degree, but don’t make it tougher. And he may actually learn something in college that will complement his strong abilities to work with his hands, or alternatively, meet people where his skills would complement others.</p>

<p>Rowing is one of the toughest sports there is. He may want to reconsider doing it during college. It can be 3-4 hrs. per day of grueling exercise, 6 days a week. If he already has problems academically, rowing on top of engineering may be too much. I don’t know how serious his current rowing program is, but that may be making school tougher.</p>

<p>Some people really need the constant exercise to function, but he may want to think about just exercising on his own on a smaller scale and/or waiting until the 2nd or ideally the 3rd year to start rowing. The first 2 years are the hardest in engineering typically.</p>

<p>Once I read through this thread, I knew I had to post.</p>

<p>I have two kids at Texas Tech. A junior in the engineering program and a freshman daughter that is taking her core classes. My daughter is dyslexic and is in the TECHniques program. Here are my thoughts and experiences with both.</p>

<p>For me, being the mom, Tech is great. Everyone, and I mean everyone, I have ever talked to there has been extremely helpful. Email responses are very fast. You know that everyone who works there cares about their school and the students. Faculty and administrators have surpassed my expectations. They have a real passion for what they do. I know this from my own experiences and also from what my kids tell me.</p>

<p>My son, in engineering, loves his professors. He feels that they provide excellent instruction, support and want him to succeed. He is in the honors college and really enjoys the interaction of his smaller classes. </p>

<p>My daughter has dyslexia and has auditory processing issues. Hated high school, struggled all the way through. Didn’t study much, did what she had to do to get the grades. When she was accepted at Tech we visited the school to basically see how the Student Disability Office was run and also to see if the TECHniques program would help. We were blown away! What a great decision it was to join the TECHniques program. This program only allows 150 students so we applied very early. They provide one on one tutoring with peers that have gone through training and she has 5 hours of tutoring a week. She also has an academic coach that she sees once a week. She gets help with organization, study skills and time management. So, after 4 weeks at school she has taken two tests and received high B’s on both. I called the other day and she said she just got done studying for two hours. WHAT??? She wants to do well for her academic coach, her tutors but mostly for herself. She is seeing good results from her efforts and feels confident about her abilities. She still struggles but does a good job advocating for herself. The professors have been great. So, PM me if I can answer any questions or help in anyway.</p>

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<p>[NCAA</a> Rules: A Guide for Ivy Alumni and Friends of Athletics - Ivy League](<a href=“http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/information/compliance/index]NCAA”>http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/information/compliance/index) </p>

<p>Based on this, if you an athlete who is getting money from alumni (whether they are calling it a “scholarship” or not), it is likely an NCAA violation.</p>

<p>Not sure why everyone is writing about Ivy League schools, because it does not look like a 3.0 student would be admitted anyway (even if a recruited athlete).</p>

<p>However, there should be plenty of schools which have various engineering majors and rowing crews, while not being out of reach for admissions for a 3.0 student.</p>

<p>Perhaps one thing to consider is whether his relatively stronger subjects in school are math and science, since a good foundation in these subjects is necessary for engineering.</p>

<p>Related majors to engineering majors are engineering technology majors, which focus on design and test work but do not require as strong a theoretical math and science background. These are not as commonly offered as engineering majors.</p>

<p>[ABET</a> - Engineering vs. Engineering Technology](<a href=“http://www.abet.org/engineering-vs-engineering-technology/]ABET”>http://www.abet.org/engineering-vs-engineering-technology/)
[Engineering</a> vs. Engineering Tech](<a href=“http://www.rit.edu/emcs/admissions/academics/majors/engineering-tech-or-engineering]Engineering”>http://www.rit.edu/emcs/admissions/academics/majors/engineering-tech-or-engineering)</p>

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<p>If he is a sophomore in geometry now, he is probably at normal level, which means algebra 2 as a junior and trigonometry and precalculus as a senior, unless the school system has both algebra 1 and algebra 2 before geometry.</p>

<p>ucb, thanks for the links. this is interesting and he agrees that ET suits him best. That seems to be the track he is on…now to see where he can do that, row, and have some LD support! thanks!</p>

<p>cat2fat, sounds like you are living my dream!! I, too, have an honor kid, who I am trying to get to see Tech, he is a senior now, would easily qualify for the honors situation, and they have a great premed track. BONUS!! DS2 could come, too! great engineering, great LD…no crew, but that reallly is a good combo at tech. Glad to hear you are so impressed. A hidden gem in Texas, I think. sounds you do too! thanks, i’ll keep your name!!</p>

<p>scchi, we are checking RIT out, thanks. same, boysx3, thanks for the tips~</p>

<p>Mamon, grades are even B’s across the board, a C every now and then (science maybe, or Latin) and an A in traditionally easier classes, English, etc. Math is B-ish, wish for better but thats the facts!!</p>

<p>collegealum, I agree with that on many levels, a college degree, from WHEREVER, is better than none. Not to mention the growing up it allows. And yes, it is grueling. And doesn’t pay well!! :slight_smile: so definitely something to consider. He is a kid that needs a workout, and without the friends, and the water…don’t know that he would do it on his own. He loves the sport. We will just have to balance this all and see where it goes. thanks for your input!!</p>

<p>I’d recommend Iowa State for “B” students seeking engineering majors.</p>

<p>It may be worth considering looking at schools that have both engineering and engineering technology of the desired type (mechanical, electrical, etc.). At such a school, he can start in engineering, but have the option to switch to engineering technology if the math and physics for engineering is too difficult.</p>

<p>However, relatively few schools offer both engineering and engineering technology. You can use [Accredited</a> Program Search](<a href=“http://main.abet.org/aps/AccreditedProgramSearch.aspx/AccreditationSearch.aspx]Accredited”>http://main.abet.org/aps/AccreditedProgramSearch.aspx/AccreditationSearch.aspx) to search for both engineering and engineering technology degree programs.</p>

well, I have put this off a bit, but here we are, midway through junior year and I am re reading all with much interest.

grades are around a 3.28…first ACT was a 24, but hoping to get around a 28+ with individual tutoring. Interests are staying same…in the meantime won a national contest in photography, but don’t know that that changes his direction…visited U Arkansas and was happy with their engineering and LD offerings, but no crew.

thanks all for your input, i may be co

Not sure what state you are in, but if there is a good state school with satellite/regional campuses, see how easy it would be to take summer school classes. If it is financially feasible, that could spread out the workload and avoid the 18 hr semesters lots of engineering programs seem to have. If classes with lots of reading/writing take more time, maybe those classes could be taken over summer.

OP, with that ACT 24 how were the subscores - were they very lopsided? Also the GPA scores - are they lopsided? e.g. high in math, low in reading or anything like that or is your son pretty much a B student all around? That might make a different in where you have him apply - especially for engineering. What is your financial need situation? Are you set on a region of the country. Two years ago I did the engineering school research for a dyslexic son. He’s happy at his Big 10 school but we looked coast to coas and big to small t as I wasn’t sure how his lopsided ACT scores were going to impact acceptances.