<p>you have to pay the right sort of friends and you'll probably get a higher rate of "giving a **** about you."</p>
<p>v You are not my... b----.</p>
<p>emmeline, i pay you $20 to let me follow you around on campus like a little dog</p>
<p>:-*</p>
<p>lol @ "if you join frat/sororities you are paying for friends."</p>
<p>Open your eyes people, think about it for a second, and then take another shot @ why there are fee's.</p>
<p>LaxAttack09: there are other fees, but when you think about it, it really shouldn't be that expensive. </p>
<p>if you don't live in the house, it's ridiculously expensive. it doesn't add up.</p>
<p>and not only do you have to pay fees, you also have to pay for the clothing & shoes & jewelry you wear to ur own formals and parties...not to mention parties that frats put on...not to mention the formal monday night meetings where everyone has to look their best. you could avoid it, perhaps, but you're utlimately going to feel obligated to pay more for other things that don't go into your fees.</p>
<p>sorry, but yeah, you are paying for friends. you're paying to be with a group of people and youre paying to be considered as a part of an organization. you might say that honors societies and other clubs do the same--but it's obvious that going greek is completely different. it would be fine if frats and sororities actually did things for the community (oh, i think they do MAYBE a couple fundraisers each year as a front to show that they care--nevermind the expensive bags and jeans that they wear everyday) but let's face it-- they don't. they drink and party excessively, and that's what you're paying for. you're paying for a group of people to do this with you. that may be fine for you, but i don't see the point in taking a part of this. paying for acceptance based on physical appearance and "coolness" (not even friendship) doesn't appeal to many students.</p>
<p>rush in fall, because in spring not all sororities are open for rushing. sororities typically accept more people in the fall since more people rush in the fall.</p>
<p>OK, my frugal fanny is telling me to completely drop the idea. </p>
<p>Thanks guys <em>kissyface</em></p>
<p>if you want to pay for friends that's ok. most friendships are based on convenience or reliance anyway.</p>
<p>if you go into a greek system with the notion that you're making life long brother/sisterhood people who will watch your back, you're mistaken.</p>
<p>take it for what it is. paying for friends.</p>
<p>paying for people to party with.</p>
<p>i don't associate with people from my sorority outside of parties/formals/events.</p>
<p>and thesuperjlai - expensive bags and jeans? i'm kinda offended by that, are you saying more affluent people should live by the same means as people in the ghetto?</p>
<p>moldau - not at all, i'm just saying that it's funny how a lot of sorority girls are into fashion and tend to focus on wearing expensive/fashionable clothing all the time, while focusing on raising money for "people in the ghetto" happens only a couple times each year. my reasoning is that if you have the money to buy expensive things, it wouldn't hurt once in a while to donate (time OR money). maybe some girls in sororities do, but i've been told that there are few volunteer opportunities within the sororities themselves. </p>
<p>but meh, that's not really their purpose of joining is it...</p>
<p>we do try participate in each house's philanthropy. it doesn't seem like its often, but if you put them all together, there are one or two each week. like, beta four square, and gamma phi frisbee, and pi phi's arrow spike.</p>
<p>although, our house was so paranoid that gamma would show up to tridelt's pancake thingy...</p>
<p>why paranoid? was it sort of an off-limits thing?</p>
<p>do sororities try to open up their philanthropies to the public? (i think if they did, and the public participated, they might get a better long-term rep? but i'm not sure if other students would necessarily feel welcome or comfortable joining in immediately)</p>
<p>it was hosted at pikapp, and so there porobably would be alcohol; after all, tridelt has their own house, and if it were jsut pancakes, it would be fine. sororities aren't allowed to have alcohol in their houses.</p>
<p>however, no philanthropies are allowed to have alcohol, and gamma (the greek police) was supposed to be out that night. if more than six sisters are at one event, then it counts for the whole sorority.</p>
<p>i don't know if they open it up to the public? i always hear the announcements through monday night meeting</p>
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sorry, but yeah, you are paying for friends. you're paying to be with a group of people and youre paying to be considered as a part of an organization. you might say that honors societies and other clubs do the same--but it's obvious that going greek is completely different. it would be fine if frats and sororities actually did things for the community (oh, i think they do MAYBE a couple fundraisers each year as a front to show that they care--nevermind the expensive bags and jeans that they wear everyday) but let's face it-- they don't. they drink and party excessively, and that's what you're paying for. you're paying for a group of people to do this with you. that may be fine for you, but i don't see the point in taking a part of this. paying for acceptance based on physical appearance and "coolness" (not even friendship) doesn't appeal to many students.
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<p>Obvioiusly you have never been in a fraternity/sorority. I was in one before I came to UCLA as a transfer student and I can tell you that those dues which you claim "buy friends" often paid for extravegant weekend getaways (vegas, mexico) where we stayed at top of the line places. Also, I never once bought liquor for a party because we used the funds to do this. Funds were also used to rent out bars for formals and other events (nfl sunday, superbowl parties, nba finals). I would never have been able to afford half the stuff that we did, even with the dues, but when you total everything together you're able to do many things you couldn't do with a group of 7-8 people. </p>
<p>And to be honest with you, who gives a ***** what I do for 4 years? If I wanna party on the weekends what's the problem with that if I get my stuff done during the week? And since you haven't been in a fraternity I think it's funny that you proclaim you don't have "connections" after college. I know of at least 3 brothers at my previous school, in the fraternity i was in, that got jobs based on those connections. All the people who hired them were former members of the same fraternity at the same university.....one landed a job @ JP Morgan, the other at an LA news service and another got hooked up with a marketing job for the Arizona Cardinals. </p>
<p>Once again, funny how somebody who was never in a fraternity knows so much about them isn't it?</p>
<p>Do you guys know what sororities are open to rushing in spring? I thought they all did, but it occurred to me maybe some don't.</p>
<p>The Tri-Delts seem interesting, from what I've heard so far, which isn't too much, admittedly.</p>
<p>The sororities that will be free to participate in informal spring rush will only be those houses that do not meet their quota during formal fall rush.</p>
<p>I see. So does this usually mean that the bottom six/five/whatever number are usually the ones to hold spring rush?</p>
<p>i definitely agree more with laxattack09 than spicyroll...lol.</p>
<p>although i've never been in a frat, i can say that most of my sorority friends aren't golddiggers, "STD banks", or whatever he said.</p>
<p>of course not, we are classy ladies who always wrap it up</p>
<p>I was at the pancake breakfast, and I saw people got kicked out if they had alcohol. One of my really good friends is in tri delta, and she told me that they couldn't have it at their house because of insurance reasons, not because they were going to serve alcohol. Just thought I'd clear that up :)</p>