<p>MBA majors know this too but will never admit it for obvious reasons</p>
<p>Fah realz homie. They ain’t got nuttin on us.</p>
<p>Accountants and Finance majors are the ones that have more job security and tend to make more money as well. A MBA is basically a glorified Liberal Arts degree haha, just on the Master’s level.
MBA’s are typically the ones without strong Math or English skills.</p>
<p>^What are you talking about? I guess that you were not accepted to a MBA program.</p>
<p>Why would I pursue and MBA degree if already realize its a joke and hardly worth the sheepskin its printed on. Not only are most blahbidy blah US News Business schools a joke but the majority of them are diploma mills. Plus the majority of the quality of people who go to business school are generally much lower than many other majors, all the rest is marketing.
The only retort and defense from MBA’s is how they are much smarter because have a higher GPA haha. Of course one is going to have a higher GPA taking business classes because in reality they really aren’t that difficult!!!
I’d hire a Marketer over an MBA, at least they admit they aren’t as strong in English and Math. Marketing is so rudimentary its nearly a joke as well unless the person is savvy with creative skills to make up for his educational deficiencies.</p>
<p>As I mentioned in my OP, people with an MBA are not going to repudiate their choice of career and have to pump up their credentials. Besides a small minority, the majority of business students were the ones that couldn’t handle or didn’t like English or Math. I am guilty of that same running joke in college as well. Many including myself have also dropped a hard math class to avoid a W or C and hopped into some Business class. It was always an easy A for me and others and many who once had dreams to say be an Engineer or Scientist found Business to be right up their alley because is WAY easier. Business and MBA’s should be relegated to what it is more closely resembles…a ‘football major’ since any average student can do well in business and many classes were filled with the football players anyways haha.</p>
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<p>Maybe this is so for the majority of mediocre MBA programs. But in the top programs, students have had calculus classes and several advanced statistics classes. Their finance skills are advanced. And they are recruited for top jobs by the top firms.</p>
<p>Do not know about English requirements. But if it was a top school, they learned how to write! </p>
<p>Heres the thing–smart kids are smart. They are going to beat you less smart kids everytime. But you lesser smart kids can play in professional sports. Or maybe form a band!!</p>
<p>Kmazza are you an engineer? Are you upset to know that engineers have had the highest layoff percentages during the recession?</p>
<p>I have 3 friends who graduated as engineers who are now enrolled at Booth MBA.</p>
<p>I don’t think you know what you are talking about. You have to remember that just because someone earns an MBA does not mean they received their undergrad degree in a related field. Many companies will up the salary for an employee who earns an MBA. My husband has a BS in Engineering. His company paid for his MBA at Claremont Grad School and then gave him a hefty raise when he earned it. Definitely worth it!</p>
<p>@Kmazza (and takeitallin) are you an engineer? Are you upset to know that engineers have had the highest layoff percentages during the recession?</p>
<p>I have 3 friends who graduated as engineers who are now enrolled at Booth MBA</p>
<p>I wholeheartedly agree as is stated in my Engineering post</p>
<p>@Maybe this is so for the majority of mediocre MBA programs. But in the top programs, students have had calculus classes and several advanced statistics classes. Their finance skills are advanced. And they are recruited for top jobs by the top firms.</p>
<p>Do not know about English requirements. But if it was a top school, they learned how to write!</p>
<p>Heres the thing–smart kids are smart. They are going to beat you less smart kids everytime. But you lesser smart kids can play in professional sports. Or maybe form a band!!</p>
<p>MBA programs are the epitome of mediocre generally speaking. Finance is different. Plus Calc I and II are the beginning of a college level math curriculum. If you are speaking about Calc based Stats then yes I agree it gets difficult. If going that direction, one might as well go into Actuary Science then.</p>
<p>Kmazza. Whats your major? Can’t wait to hear this.</p>
<p>Actuary science? Yeah since there are SOOO many jobs out there for actuaries.</p>
<p>I’m not here to insult people’s choice of major and admittedly conveying both my opinion and experience. I agree that Actuary Science is a more limited job market but also less go into that field and major. That said, Actuaries are in more demand presently with a higher than average growth potential than one with a Diploma Mill MBA. Actuaries also tend to make more but wouldn’t go as far as to say the work is more interesting or engaging than BA.</p>
<p>No they are not in more demand. Thats just flat WRONG. And the only reason the bls says they have above average growth is because it’s a very small market that will grow along with the population. It is just proportional. The market itself sucks.</p>
<p>"Job prospects. Job seekers are likely to face competition because the number of job openings is expected to be less than the number of qualified applicants. "</p>
<p>About actuaries. You’re misinformed and biased. You said you weren’t here to insult majors but in the accounting/Econ thread you do just that with accounting.</p>
<p>There is a high probability that the job outlook for Actuaries will improve with the greater development being put into the health care industry. You may be looking too short term but neither of us know what the future may bring. My bias is more along the lines of a mix of the numbers and research done on the subject than having any personal preference.</p>
<p>My points on accounting were quite clear I thought and generally in consensus with what others think…
pros: decent money, predictable, generally stable work in a up or down economy
cons: uninteresting, not very challenging, and fairly stressful
Conclusion: an overall practical degree that really depends on who you work for</p>
<p>is the OP don king? repudiate? really? the rest of your post indicates you might not even know how to look up what a work like repudiate means.</p>
<p>“MBA” is not a major.</p>
<p>Secondly, I agree that it is a very bad proposition to pay to go to an MBA program outside of the top 20 or so. If your employer pays that’s different.</p>
<p>the “How dare Kellog, Notre Dame, and UChicago reject my 400 GMAT and 2.93 GPA!!!” thread.</p>
<p>^^Did he write that? I guess I was right that he hasn’t been accepted, and now he is mad.</p>
<p>Don’t even pay attention to this fool.</p>
<p>A quick search of this individual shows that he is either an architecture or film/photography major (he was looking at grad schools for both in earlier posts).</p>
<p>Oh and he thinks he’s the **** because he complete like a full 4 years worth of school at a community college and wanted to “hit it big at UCSB”</p>
<p>You realize I tend to find your attitude more amusing than anything. Colleges are a business that market to people, especially naive freshman. Do you really think I care about paying a lot for a schools name? I let the classified imbeciles do that and go into debt while I have ZERO credit card and college debt and multiple degrees and certificates. My family were Harvard and MIT professors so when I was younger was allowed to even sit in on classes. I’ve also sat in/audited classes at UCB, UCLA, and Stanford to see what they were like. I don’t have to look at grad schools because already did my homework. I am here to help students match their interests and major to the best program they can find. My knowledge of schools ranges from being aware of nearly every college here in the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, and much of Europe.
To answer your question, no I’m not a ‘architecture’ or ‘film major’ as I am not the kind of person that says I am…a architect. More properly speaking I would say what I DO such as…I design…commercial property buildings or I film…documentaries. That said I when I was starting out, I did complete 2 years of Drafting and Design but decided I didn’t want to be a CAD monkey. This was my experience…I wanted a balance of art and science/technology so thought that was a good choice. What happened was all the cool people left the program for something more exciting with much less socially inept squares. I was too stubborn to listen as even this cute girl in class I was dating told me I’d prolly be happier and a better fit doing photography…if I only listened!!!
I love Architecture to this day but just found another niche in the field I like much better…Architectural Librarianship and Architectural Photography which I make great money in. I then went and got a Library degree and computer certificate and made on average 4 grand a month working in a library to support myself while continuing my education. I then got a 2 year Environmental and Urban Studies Degree and another 2 year GIS/GPS certificate which architectural firms love. Now I’m one class away from earning a Photography degree and a year away from another Film/TV production degree. All of these taught me and gave me more practical skills to enter the work force over a 4 year degree within the same habitus. In most cases I end up supervising and/or mentoring students who got a 4 year degree plus make more money. I would have to say that its not necessarily the degree or school but how you market it and having the skillz to back it up.
Do I think I’m more smarter? No, I realize there are much more intelligent and ambitious people than me. I will say this thought…when I was growing up I did not watch TV or play video games. I was either reading or doing and even in high school production companies would some how gain permission from the school to pull me out of class to film news, sports and political events primarily.
The only thing that matters to me is I enjoy what I’m doing which I do and have no qualms about being a lifelong learner aka college bum. When I work for someone else I on average make $30-70 an hour in the music, film and photography business but on my own average $100 an hour. That is because I rarely sit at home and am out there networking finding something I may like or just won’t do it.
Personally I can’t wait until fall quarter starts Monday and will access to my schools top notch HD cameras and editing lab. I’m a full time student and need to pay off my fall quarter account balance of $9.50 sucka.
I was accepted to CAL but didn’t want to live in Berkeley for one since do like LA and SB better. Another reason was that I didn’t like CAL’s or UCLA’s program over UCSB’s. I do not plan or think its worth it to obtain a BA in film, architecture or photography. If I was to go to a 4 year school I’d want to be able to pay it off in less than 3 years not 5 to 20 with compound interest plus principle. That said I’m interested not only in GIS/GPS and Remote Sensing but Petro and Geological Engineering. My studies in photography are two fold, I like it as my art outlet but also study on a very high scientific level. Because I’m trained in dealing with pictures of earth and space I wanted to understand all I could, most of which I do on my own. I also like to study wavelengths of light and am really good at finding precious metals :). The other part of my photography/film studies is that I’m a specialized Multi-media (GIS, maps, film, photography) Library and Information Specialist. Hope that clears up and answers your ad hominem attack upon my character.</p>