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<p>Ah a ranking of RESEARCH and DOCTORATE programs…clearly relevant to our discussion. </p>
<p>IBclass is a very confused individual, he can’t seem to distinguish between graduate and undergraduate programs. Nobody in their right mind would claim that Berkeley is on par with Yale (or any ivy for that matter) when it comes to undergraduate academics, prestige, or anything you want to compare. </p>
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The United States National Research Council conducts a survey and compiles a report on United States Research-Doctorate Programs approximately every 10 years</p>
<p>While the NRC rankings are regarded by many as the premier ranking of doctorate programs, it has been criticized as part of a self-validating academic circle and as favoring universities that conduct mainstream research as opposed to more heterodox approaches.
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<p>How do you even begin to defend that statement? IBclass06, do you have ANY idea how easy it is to get into Berkeley? I spent a morning on my entire UC app and still got the regents scholarship to Cal. Their average SAT is literally around 2000.</p>