<p>Which MBA gives the greatest long term boost to career horsepower?</p>
<p>Any takers?</p>
<p>(ignore industry and location)</p>
<p>you’re basically asking ‘Kobe or LeBron?’</p>
<p>ignore industry and location lol… what future vp said</p>
<p>I would say Harvard by a hair (that was cut in half) just because OMG IT’S HARVARD</p>
<p>but I don’t think it really matters</p>
<p>Outside of the US, the Harvard degree will get you a long, long way.</p>
<p>Yes,
Harvard is extremely popular outside the USA. WHen you say you graduated from Harvard, people are like " lol you are smart, successful, rich…". Princeton (for undergrad) is also very popular. However, I dont think this is the case with other schools. For example, if you say you graduated from Columbia, most of the people would assume you mean you had studied in Latin America.
AS for the States, people say it doesnt really matter if you went in Wharton, Stanford, Harvard, Columbia, or Chicago Booth in terms of job prospects.</p>
<p>I would say HBS is the most prestigious by far as viewed by people in other countries, followed by Wharton. Harvard is simply viewed as the best, whether in medicine, law, business, forestry, etc. The only exception would be people thinking MIT to be better than Harvard for engineering.</p>
<p>any other takers for this?</p>
<p>I was recently accepted to one of the programs above. </p>
<p>I would have to say that the international reputation of HBS amongst “common folks” is marginally greater than that of GSB. The people that matter in your profession probably know that there is no separating GSB/HBS. At the end of the day, it all comes down to your fit (location/ ibanking vs startups etc). Also, having said that, the admit rate of GSB is close to half of HBS - which in all likelihood will lead to a very very tightly knit community (not to say that HBS won’t give you the same, but it’s just what “appeared” to be the case during campus visits and alumni interactions).</p>
<p>AM I the only one that holds the HBS in lesser regard after witnessing George W Bush economics? (HBS grad if you didnt know)</p>
<p>“AM I the only one that holds the HBS in lesser regard after witnessing George W Bush economics? (HBS grad if you didnt know)”</p>
<p>First of all, it’s business school. We are not talking about medical school or law school. People in business schools are not as smart as ones in law or medical school overall. Second, Bush is one person. Has Stanford GSB produced a president yet?</p>
<p>Ivy- well actually W was the first (and probably last) MBA President, Stanford will never get the chance because everyone knows Republican businessman = bad governor/president (Romneycare was good though). I agree with your point about med school but there are plenty of crooks wackos with a top-notch law degree Michelle Bachman- Harvard Law)</p>
<p>HBS is much bigger. It has many more alumni and is a much older institution. With 1000 people graduating each year, it’s natural that there will be more CEOs, world leaders, etc. Indeed, it does have better brand recognition amongst laymen.</p>
<p>Additionally, GSB only been regarded as a top b-school for the last 30 years, and it’s has been only recognized as the best business school for the last 5-10 years. </p>
<p>However, if you look at the split between H/S dual admits, close to 70% choose Stanford. (HBS yield% is higher because of the larger class size, but Stanford wins the vast majority of dual admits).</p>
<p>In most prestige driven industries (PE/VC/Consulting), HBS is considered the “gold standard”, but GSB is considered the “platinum standard”. Stanford GSB has nearly half the admit rate of HBS, and is widely known to be more difficult institution to gain admission.</p>
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<p>That’s an interesting contention, as HBS claims to lose the cross-admit battle to no-one. Do you have data to support your assertion?</p>
<p>“However, if you look at the split between H/S dual admits, close to 70% choose Stanford. (HBS yield% is higher because of the larger class size, but Stanford wins the vast majority of dual admits).”</p>
<p>I’m interested in this as well. In the most desirable industries (specifically PE, VC, and hedge funds, no IB or consulting), Stanford has the upper hand for PE and VC. It would make sense that Stanford has the upper hand. I’m interested to see your source as well.</p>
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<p>I’m interested in this claim as well, as it is widely believed, at least within my social circle, that HBS holds a commanding lead over GSB within LBO-style PE (which, let’s face it, is still largely centered around the East Coast). VC may actually be evenly matched, as even within Silicon Valley, a surprising number of VC’s hold HBS pedigrees. </p>
<p>But I don’t have any strong convictions on this issue one way or another. So I would welcome data that speaks to this issue.</p>
<p>HBS claims a yield of about 89%. They manage their yield carefully and it has been fairly constant for HBS over the years. This means that 100 of their admits (class size ~900) go someplace else. Most likely they lose these admits to Stanford, Wharton, Chicago (plus Columbia, Kellogg) in that order.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Stanford GSB does not publish their yield, but it’s estimated to be about 80%. <a href=“Admission to the Stanford MBA Program Information for the Stanford MBA Program | Stanford Graduate School of Business”>http://www.gsb.stanford.edu/mba/admission</a> This means that they offered admission to 498 individuals to fill their class of 398 individuals. They lose 100 individuals, a vast majority of them to HBS.</p>
<p>Based on the above, it can be deduced that even though both Stan and HBS lose equal number of admits to other schools, among individuals accepted to both HBS and Stan, more people end up choosing HBS. This means that among cross admits HBS gains more than 50% of cross admits with GSB.</p>
<p>But if Stan GSB’s yield were 90%, the balance would change, and more cross admits would have accepted Stan GSB over HBS.</p>
<p>Not sure if Stanford steals the vast majority of HBS admits, most probably, yes. But on FB, 17 students of Haas freshmen MBA have also been admitted to HBS. All of them are receiving scholarship grants from Haas based on merit, and 4 of them aren’t engineers. 6 of those 17 have also been accepted at Stanford.</p>
<p>“well actually W was the first (and probably last) MBA President, Stanford will never get the chance because everyone knows Republican businessman = bad governor/president (Romneycare was good though). I agree with your point about med school but there are plenty of crooks wackos with a top-notch law degree Michelle Bachman- Harvard Law)”</p>
<p>As a future HLS grad I just want to stop this misinformation right now. Michelle Bachman never, ever, ever, ever went to HLS. Maybe you were thinking of Michelle Obama but Bachman couldn’t get into HLS because we actually require our students to have a brain. She actually went to the now defunct Oral Roberts Law School.</p>
<p>Stanford GSB takes 3 out of every 4 cross-admits with HBS. This is from a source very close to the GSB and has apparently been confirmed by the Dean. HBS might still have a higher yield, since it admits many students who don’t get accepted to the GSB, and HBS’ yield on those students must be close to 100%. Shockingly, the GSB takes slightly higher than 3 out of ever 4 cross-admits among international student. Apparently, the only major competition the GSB has for MBA students is from industry (prospects deciding to forgo an MBA).</p>
<p>Both are great schools. If you are interested in high tech / VC / SV startup world, Stanford is probably unbeatable. If you want to work in finance in the NorthEast, Harvard likely wins. But, I don’t think either limits you. An HBS professor told me that there are as many Harvard MBAs in SV as there are Stanford MBAs (due to the class size). It’s possible that some recruiters don’t come to Stanford because the class is small and there are so many students who appear to be interested in the high tech/VC world. </p>
<p>I think the difference internationally is much smaller than it was – everyone who you’d care about knows about Stanford, which has through its focus on applied science (as well as doing well in pretty much everything else) been on a big upswing. But there are intensely loyal Harvard/HBS alumni in almost every country. Stanford’s international alumni contingent is going to be a lot smaller.</p>