<p>"there were many Christian clubs and societies"</p>
<p>good enough for me, i know i could have looked this up but good to hear it from someone.</p>
<p>Also would SAT 740 math and SAT mathII 720 be too low to have a decent chance at UCB out of state ?</p>
<p>Check out Michigan-Ann Arbor while you are at it, it has a very highly regarded Engineering program.</p>
<p>Depends on your GPA. If I am not mistaken, your GPA actually will weigh more than SAT score. What I mean is the difference between 3.8 and 3.9 is more than the difference between 740 and 760. Their average SAT may not look that high (like around 1350 or so) but the average GPA is above 3.9. The average SAT for enginereing school will be higher than the average overall (just like pretty much any school) though my guess is their MatSci isn't their most popular/competitive program. OOS or not, they are huge on numbers. Your ECs mean relatively (or very) little to them.</p>
<p>Regarding Christian clubs, do you mind if the groups are predominantly Asians? The reason I asked is that Northwestern had around 17% Asians when I was there; the InterVarsity had like 40% Asians even though there was already an Asian Chrisitan Fellowship group almost the size of InterVarsity! My point is there seems to be disproportionally large number of Asians in Christian groups. With over 40% of the Berkeley undergrad population being Asians, I won't be surprised if the Christian groups there are predominantly Asians.</p>
<p>UIUC was rated the best school for materials science and it's a reallllyyy fun school.
if you go there for a year i think you're considered an illinois resident which means you get in state tuition which is somewhere around 20,000 (including r&b)
something to think about...</p>
<p>I have got to get a brighter light :o
I certainly missed that the list was for schools that didn't have PHd prgrams.
Du'oh
thanks for pointing it out</p>
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if you go there for a year i think you're considered an illinois resident which means you get in state tuition
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Only if your parents (or spouse) move there with you...
<a href="http://courses.uiuc.edu/cis/programs/urbana/2003/appendix/B_residency.html%5B/url%5D">http://courses.uiuc.edu/cis/programs/urbana/2003/appendix/B_residency.html</a></p>
<p>Harvey Mudd does not have individual engineering departments. Generic Engineering program is not very attractive.</p>
<p>"Harvey Mudd does not have individual engineering departments. Generic Engineering program is not very attractive."</p>
<p>First statement is a fact. Second statement is an opinion.</p>
<p>A general engineering degree is attractive to me. In fact, after only one year of school (perhaps I am a fluke) I have an offer for $500/day building a UAV. (I'll assume you'll do the math.)</p>
<p>Money surely isn't everything, but employers who know their stuff and actually do work will prefer someone who know the basis for every engineering subject and not just a single concentration. This company that I am working for will shift over to spacecraft in 4 years...and THAT, my friend, is where I want to be. Thanks to a general engineering education, I am doing it.</p>
<p>My second statement is not just an opinion. </p>
<p>In specific cases (such as yours) one may be successful with a little bit of knowledge of various engineering subjects.<br>
However, in general, one needs to concentrate and specialize in a particular field to maximize the chance of getting a job. If you look at the engineering job adverts, the overwhelming majority requires graduates from a particular field. You may have found an opening now, but employment situation is always in a flux. You have to go with the trend in the job market.</p>
<p>My father has worked in the engineering field, has taught in the engineering college, and his advice to me is to go to a school with specialized engineering departments. The engineering work is getting to be more complex by the day and, therefore, specialization is needed. One has to get MS and PhD in the particular field to advance on the technical ladder. (It is the same thing in medicine. A generalist won't cut it, the medical doctor has to pick a narrow field and study it at great depth.)</p>
<p>Another place with a general engineering dept is Harvard. They claim "Students pursue work on a variety of topics, such as electrical engineering and bioengineering." IMHO, a kid who has the credentials to go to Harvard is better served to go elsewhere (Stanford, MIT, CIT, Cornell, etc) for the engineering degree in a specialized field.</p>