<p>oh no not Gutrade...go to forums for your precious Yale and stop trolling.</p>
<p>Read this article written by current Stanford students on what the general Stanford populations thinks of Berkeley. It should be of somewhat of a signal to posters who try to defend Stanford even though they are themsevles Stanford rejects!!!!!!</p>
<p>(enjoy fellow Bears)</p>
<p>Mosharma:</p>
<p>You just made my day, thank you very much ;) I'm not exactly partial to CAL...well, okay, yes I am slightly considering that I live much closer to Berkeley than to Palo Alto...but that article did bring up some honest aspects. Not that all of it is to be taken as printed, but I admit that a good deal of it IS honest and oftentimes true.</p>
<p>Somehow, I know that this will spark a wave of controversy.</p>
<p>Cal is better in all aspects except population of snobby rich white people.</p>
<p>You either like them or you don't.</p>
<p>Berkeley shouldn't be comparing itself to Stanford in the first place. It should be comparing itself to its peer institutions like UCLA, USC, UMich, UVA, NYU, etc. </p>
<p>"If you can't control your wings, don't reach for the sky."</p>
<p>Collegeperson12: Why would you say that? Many of Berkeley's programs (yes, undergraduate included) can compete with or best even privates such as MIT, Caltech, and of course, Stanford. </p>
<p>Besides, this thread is not a matter of Berkeley comparing itself to Stanford, it's people who got into both who are (rightfully) comparing them to see which one they'd rather go to. And Berkeley is just about as good (better than, in a lot of cases) private schools; or at least comparable, based on the fact that it is PUBLIC. I hope your comment wasn't intended to demean the Berkeley system as being below the par of the privates. </p>
<p>Besides, USC is private anyway. So I don't see your point in comparing Berkeley to that instead of Stanford.</p>
<p>damn....laying the smackdown</p>
<p><em>laughs</em> I agree that this board is neither the right time nor place to host a Bears vs. Cardinals smackdown. But it's fun! (Just kidding.)</p>
<p>My main point in all this is that when making a decision, one shouldn't consider the fact that Berkeley is public and Stanford is private to make judgments on education there. There shouldn't be a great disparity in the quality of teaching in English between these two top colleges. I'd just like to emphasize that the real difficulty comes down to personal preference for the more subjective aspects.</p>
<p>I apologize if I come off sounding like a defensive prune, because I usually am not. They're both good colleges.</p>
<p><em>shuffles away to study for Calc</em></p>
<p>Almost nobody who gets into both Stanford and Berkeley chooses to enroll at Berkeley. The ones who do are either:</p>
<p>a.) on crack
b.) so misguided they belong at Berkeley</p>
<p>On the other hand, it makes sense when people choose between Stanford and its PEER institutions like MIT, Harvard, Yale, Caltech, Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, etc. </p>
<p>Berkeley is not a peer instutition.</p>
<p>What's your peer institution uber, Sf community college?</p>
<p>lol conor....from what i read, uber is himself a stanfurd reject!! hell, i would guess he is a berkeley reject also.....just has nothing else to do besides degrading Cal when everyone knows that Cal is a world class institution....</p>
<p>And Berkeley is full of Stanford rejects. What's you point?</p>
<p>rooster- does it really matter they were rejected by Stanford? Does it mean they are inferior to the kids at Stanford? Just what is so wrong with being a Stanford reject? </p>
<p>Uber- just shut up. your unwarranted arrogant and elitist attitude towards public universities is a disgrace to all community college students.</p>
<p>rooster, i truly believe that the stanfurd students mentioned in this article is you.....</p>
<p>I was accepted at both Stanford and Berkeley, and I have yet to make my decision. I resent ubermensch's statements - I am neither "on crack" nor "misguided" when I consider the fact that I may be potentially saving about $10,000-$12,000 PER YEAR by going to Berkeley and, at least in engineering, the two schools both rank roughly equally on a worldwide scale.</p>
<p>I attended Cal Day last weekend, and I will be attending Stanford Admit Weekend next weekend. I am leaning toward Berkeley as of now for financial reasons, but I am excited to see what Stanford may have to offer. Really, from what I have seen and heard, I hold both universities in very high regard.</p>
<p>I think you should choose Berkeley and chill with the other Stanford rejects.</p>
<p>Or you could choose to go to a community college and chill with ubermensh.</p>
<p>uber- can you just shut up? I have no problem at all with community college students, but ones that are so elitist and don't have anything else better to do are just straight annoying. I see you all over this board saying how bad Berkeley is and how great Stanford is, but have you visited both campuses? have you been a student at one of them? </p>
<p>you, as a community college student have no right to speak about how one world class university is filled with rejects that are a lower caliber than students from other world class universities. Actually, reading your posts and such, I can understand why you are at a community college.</p>
<p>I really hope I don't encounter people like Ubermensch at Stanford. I got into both Stanford and Berkeley (out of state), and I'm choosing Stanford for a variety of reasons, but in reality these two schools are both awesome, and had I been in-state, I might have picked Berkeley for financial reasons. Saving 15k is not being on crack.</p>
<p>paul - u wont. he goes to community college.</p>