<p>I don't think I'll ever work in China, so prestige in China is not my concern. :)</p>
<p>But thanks for the input. I cannot wait until Bulldog Days!</p>
<p>I guess your choice will come down to whether you prefer to be cold or happy. Good luck, and see you at Stanford!</p>
<p>My name is Dina. ;)</p>
<p>And SourApplezz :</p>
<p>I am not trying to start a battle, S and Y are both AWESOME schools,really.</p>
<p>And thanks for your evidence that backs up my point! lol......</p>
<p>*My mother has lived in China for 52 years. She said she most often hears about Harvard and Yale. She's heard UCLA just as much as Berkeley and Stanford. *
When I was in China, I never heard of Yale. My parents have been in China for more than 60 years, They don't know Yale. But they do know Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Berkeley, Caltech, and Princeton, because these schools frequently claimed Nobel prizes and Nobel prize is a big deal in China.</p>
<p>when I was little, I've only heard of harvard, MIT and berkeley....</p>
<p>Datalook:</p>
<p>Wow, so should I now say my father's lived in China for 62 years, and win the age battle? Perhaps then you'd bring in your uncle who's lived there for 65? </p>
<p>Joking.</p>
<p>Neither your or my parents is a valid reflection of China as a whole. Just because you or your parents have never heard of Yale, does not mean that the country in whole does not recognize it's name over Stanford, and vice versa. I just hate it when one uses their narrow scope of opinions and blows it up as the opinion of an entire country. That's why I stated the view from my family's perspective: to show that one view is not always the correct one.</p>
<p>lol...........we're off the topic.........</p>
<p>Why the hell does it matter whether Yale or Stanford or School X is more prestigious in China?</p>
<p>I agree with SourApplezz -"Neither your or my parents is a valid reflection of China as a whole."</p>
<p>You should at least do a two sample test with one SRS (simple random sample) taking into account the proportion of people in a specific age group who who have heard of Yale and the other SRS taking into account the proportion of people in the same age group who have heard of Stanford. Then you use the sample statistics and use a t-distribution to calculate the p-value (probability) at a given confidence level that the proportion of Chinese people in that specific age group have heard of Yale is different from the proportion of Chinese people in the same specific age group that have heard of Stanford.</p>
<p>You might want to do different samples for different locations.</p>
<p>And all the SRS must satisfy the condition that n (the number of people in the sample) * p (the proportion) is greater than 10, and n*(1-p) is also greater than 10, and the population must be at least 10x greater than n.</p>
<p>The samples taken here are not random, and the number of people mentioned who know Yale or Stanford is less than 10, and the number of people mentioned who don't is also less than 10.</p>
<p>Therefore these opinions about China in general cannot be said to be accurate at any confidence level.</p>
<p>However, both DinaZhang and datalook, could have taken essentially random samples of the people around them. It is possible that their samples satisfy or nearly satisfy the requirements for using a t-distribution, which means it is possible that their conclusions are correct at a decent confidence level, even if they did not do any statistical calculations.</p>
<p>I again quote SourApplezz - "Neither your or my parents is a valid reflection of China as a whole."</p>
<p>DinaZhang and datalook can both be reasonably confident about their results (this is not a precise point we are arguing here), but only for their own locations (where their respective simple random samples were taken).</p>
<p>darkchaos,</p>
<p>Nice arguments. But I believe instead of using t-test, it might be more appropriate if you use asymptotic Z-test, or Pearson chi-square test, or Fisher exact test to address the problem.</p>
<p>Stanford has the best Statistics department in US, which was my dreamed place to go. If you are there, you are so lucky. And I'm jealous.</p>
<p>Thanks. I'm still a junior in high school, so I haven't learned pearson chi-square test (though I've heard of it) or the Fisher exact test. We don't know the true parameters for the population so I thought the Z-test couldn't be used.</p>
<p>And about being in Stanford... haha I wish. I wish so much that I'm just browsing around at 6 am looking at the amazing GPAs of most of the people accepted into Stanford.</p>
<p>darkchaos,</p>
<p>When dealing with counts or proportions, T-test is not appropriate. But when sample size is big enough, z-test is a good approximation.</p>
<p>Stanford is a great school. It was my dream, a dream I didn't realize, hopefully, my kids will realize for me when they grow up.</p>
<p>DO YOU GUYS REALIZE HOW RETARDED YOU ARE ABOUT ARGUING ABOUT HOW WELL KNOWN STANFOR/YALE IS IN QUOTE "RURAL AREAS OF KOREA"?... WHY, DO YOU PLAN ON SELLING CABBAGE OR CLEANING THE STREETS THERE ANYTIME SOON? OR IS IT ALL THE RELATIVES IN CHINA CAN GO "OHHHH OMG>>>>>"</p>
<p>... If it's the latter, well you have more problems than just deciding between Yale and Stanford. In any case, go where you will be the most happy and can do well. For medical school, Stanford is better. Yale places MUCH better for Law. But the effect of "prestige" once in the Ivy League/Stan.MIT.Cal is negligible. It depends on what you did with your time there and how well you did it. </p>
<p>Harvard, Yale, Columbia, MIT, and Berkely (cuz so many damn asians go there) are the best known in China.</p>
<p>lol sell cabbage :D</p>
<p>Is Irvine well known then as well? :p just kidding.</p>
<p>Slightly off topic from the original post, lol.</p>
<p>BTW, just a random thought, but a few months back, I made a thread that was Berkeley vs. Duke, b/c I thought I would be getting in there and having to decide b/t the two, but now its b/t Yale and Stanford. Anyways, its just amazing how things don't turn out like how you think, but sometimes they turn out even better!!!</p>
<p>I am facing a tough college decision and would like some input.</p>
<p>I was accepted to Harvard, Stanford, and Yale. My decision basically comes down to HARVARD and STANFORD.</p>
<p>I love both schools so much and the decision is impossible to make. I intend to major in either physics, mathematics, or applied mathematics. With distance not a factor, which school would you attend and why?</p>
<p>^Why not YALE????????!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Because New Haven is a crime-ridden craphole.</p>
<p>That shouldn't be a problem for ME. I live right next to Oak-town.</p>