<p>your prep school numbers are irrelevant. fact of the matter is, stanford dominates top public schools.</p>
<p>Baba, you complete lack of an argument is amazing. Your facts are wrong in a variety of places.
1. UCLA receives the most applications, not NYU. In terms of private schools, NYU may be tops but that is irrelevant. Their matriculation rate is low and acceptance rate comparatively high. NYU's class is also like 5 times the size of H and S.
2. Your "prep school" statistics don't even make any sense. In the case of Menlo School, all those UCB kids just couldn't get into the big S.
3. If Stanford is a "regional player" how come they outperform every other school sans H and Y in terms of attracting top students? How come a lot of tech students pick it over MIT?
4. Penn State sucks at football. Actually, their team is probably worse than Stanford's.
5. I bet in terms of cross-admits between Stanford and Notre Dame, Stanford wins 98% of the time. How do they belong together?</p>
<p>I wouldn't be so sure about that 98%. 3 of my best friends go to Notre Dame, and one chose ND over Stanford and Duke, and the other chose ND over Princeton. People who apply to ND, usually think of it as there top choice. It's generally a self-selecting group.</p>
<p>Baba, you're not convincing anyone anything, so don't even bother trying. It's obvious that you have some personal issues with Stanford, and tech schools as well (why do you put down MIT and CalTech?). No one cares. Stanford is definitely not a "regional player", as its reputation and prestige rival HYP's, and in terms of a research university, many claim that it even surpasses them. Take a look at the revealed preference rankings: Stanford is surpassed only by Harvard and Yale, meaning that more cross-admits choose Stanford over the other six Ivies.</p>
<p>cross admit data is fed by sford, becuase they want name associations. Most HYP cross admits ( i guess) those who go to SFord, most likely CA residents and or Eng majors. So I would suggest Sford is CA/Tech school, unless you have any specific data from HYP saying otherwise. HYP/Ivy get more from West Coast around 15-20%. </p>
<p>HYP will equal Sford for CA applicants which is understanble, home/mom helps.</p>
<p>In East HYP 7 times more appealing. Just take a look at top 20 East Coast school and Top 20 CA schools , you will find this trend.</p>
<p>Fzero: If Sford was HYP then it would take at least 3-5% from HYP Feeders llike Exter, Milton Groton etc Secod Tier IVy takes about 1-2% from these schools which what SFord is doing.</p>
<p>Only among CA Applicants, SFORd does as good as HYP, so that makes it a west coast school, a good one I might add. If I was in West Coast, I would love to go to SFord and UCB. Job wise that makes sense, most UCB and Sford end up working in the area.</p>
<p>Many of those Northeast prep schools get kids into the Ivies through connections. I attend a private school where virtually every student has some type of Ivy legacy. And besides, practically every college's student body has a large percentage of kids from the immediate area. Keep in mind that CA is a huge state; it makes sense that Stanford would have lots of CA kids. Virtually every school is overrepresented in its own state. That doesn't mean that those kids are any less qualified. There are simply far more applicants due to this "regional'' reputation that you keep mentioning, which every college (including your worshipped Ivies) has.</p>
<p>I have no idea what baba is talking about. I'm from the east coast and the prestige of Stanford is insanely high. It's higher than Princeton for sure. Out of all the HYPS schools, Princeton seems to be the one that's the most regional.</p>
<p>I understand where baba is coming from though. He goes to a doormat ivy like UofPenn and he's ****ed that a younger, non-ivy school is way more prestigious. It hurts him even more than Penn is ranked higher on US News but people still aren't impressed by it.</p>
<p>50% of Sford enrollment from CA which is 10% of US population.</p>
<p>Newsweek High school Top 100 rankings: Ca schools total 4 same as NJ
A weak feeder base getting lion share of enrollment. mY mY WHAT A PLACE.
nO DIFFERENT THAN uc iRVINE.</p>
<p>baba, you make absolutely no sense. I, and I don't think anyone else, can understand what you are saying at all! Maybe its because we are on the Stanford board and we can't communicate coherently?</p>
<p>zephyr151, regarding your question about Stanford vs. Princeton cross-admit data, the 2004 Revealed Preference ranking indicates that Stanford beats Princeton in competitions for common admits. Additionally, and contrary to what I think baba posted above, Stanford is perceived as more desirable than Princeton in the Northeast region which includes the following states: CT, MA, ME, NH, RI, VT.</p>
<p>stanford has close to 12000 applicants from CA( a weak feeder system, check newsweek ranking of highschools). yield close to 90%. They would mean high admit rate for ivy bound prep applicant. I would say Sford would admit close to 20-30 of NE perps and get 25% yield. May be around 100 or so.</p>
<p>Real cross admits for Leland StanfordJr College ka UC at Palo Alto are : UCB, Caltch, may be MIT.</p>
<p>HYP competes mostly with each other and other IVYs and LACs.</p>
<p>Hey baba, it is really pathetic to be attacking a college that didnt accept you, go buy a life, go do something productive. I know many people that was cross admited on stanford and HYP and had a very tough decision among all four. I chose stanford over Yale an Princeton, and i am not regretting it.</p>