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Among the four 'founding fathers', Cerf and Kahn are more famous. Cerf is the most famous figure, and most widely called 'the father of internet'. Cerf and Kahn were recognized by Turing prize, national medal of technology, medal of freedom, and etc. I am not denying the great contribution from Kleinrock and Roberts. I am just pointing out their contribution is less recognized throughout the world.
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<p>Kahn has no connection to Stanford (or to MIT). As far as Cerf goes, even if you want to say that his contribution was greater than that of Kleinrock's or Robert's alone, I think nobody, including Cerf himself, would assert that his contribution was larger than both of those other guys combined. </p>
<p>Hence, either way you cut it, Kleinrock+ Robert > Cerf, which means that MIT contributed a greater portion to the Internet than did Cerf. </p>
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Stanford's contributions to internet are certainly richer than MIT. Just list what I know:
Internet TCP/IP protocol, stanford graduate and former prof Cerf
First internet website in the world (SLAC)
YAHOO (Stanford ph.d students Filo and Yang)
GOOGLE search engine (Stanford ph.d students Page and Brin)
netscape (Stanford prof Jim Clark)
Alta Vista search engine (Stanford ph.d Paul Flaherty)
multiprotocal internet router (Stanford engineer Bill Yeager)
DSL broadband internet connection (Stanford Ph.d. and prof John Cioffi)
Claiming MIT made more contributions than Stanford is laughable.
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<p>And like I said, none of that would be even possible without the development of the Arpanet, which is more of an MIT invention than a Stanford invention.</p>
<p>Furthermore, isn't the Internet nothing more than a specific application of Licklider's Galaxy Network? Didn't (D)Arpa itself get formed at the urging of Vannevar Bush? I could go on and on about how MIT actually created the foundation for the US government's backing of the (D)Arpanet as a government research project. </p>
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To answer your question about search engine why it is all the way Stanford, I don't know how many people have ever heard of those search engines you mentioned with 'ties' to MIT. There might be a plenty more such and such search engines existing in the past. All these products got crushed by Alta Vista and GOOGLE. Both Alta Vista and GOOGLE were invented by Stanford graduates. So it is all the way Stanford.
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<p>So your test is that 'more people heard' of the inventions that Stanford has made? By that same argument, Britney Spears is one of the greatest recording artists in world history, just because a lot of people have heard of her. I doubt that 'pop culture significance' has much to do with importance. </p>
<p>Look, the bottom line is this. I am not saying that Stanford is a bad school. I am saying that we should respect the contributions of MIT as a strong engineering school. I don't think either one should be disrespected.</p>