<p>Stanford is ranked as one of the best engineering schools in the nation, along with MIT and Caltech. However, is the science, math, and engineering coursework as rigorous as that of the two schools, which are "institutes of technology" whereas Stanford is more well-rounded. Thanks.</p>
<p>The math/engineering sequence is definitely rigorous. However, due to humanities requirements you usually start a bit later (unless of course you want to overload your freshman year) compared to MIT/Caltech. You catch up later anyways.</p>
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Stanford is ranked as one of the best engineering schools in the nation, along with MIT and Caltech.
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<p>...and Berkeley. =p (Stanford and Berkeley usually compete for the second spot, after MIT.)</p>
<p>The course work is most definitely as rigorous as at MIT or Caltech. Think of it like this: take Caltech and add in a bunch of humanities and non-science/engineering fields. Do those change the rigor of the engineering? No. Engineering is engineering. And Stanford engineering is very rigorous.</p>
<p>So you're saying that completing an engineering degree at Stanford takes more work than at Caltech?</p>
<p>My impression looking at the first year workload only was that
Caltech was definitely tougher in terms of what I would end
up doing than at Stanford primarily because of the proof based
Math requirements.</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>@Kyledavid</p>
<p>I can't help but notice in every post that has something to do with stanford ranking, you always mention berkeley. And from reading your post you seem to show a great tendency in praising berkeley this and berkeley that. Are you some kind of berkeley spy in the stanford forum? =P</p>
<p>this is just a rhetorical question you don't have to answer. I think everyone knows already :)</p>
<p>^^
Oh please let's not start this, we know what's gonna happen. :)</p>
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I can't help but notice in every post that has something to do with stanford ranking, you always mention berkeley.
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<p>I mention Berkeley when it should be mentioned. I mention Chicago when it should be mentioned. I mention MIT when it should be mentioned. You see the trend. =)</p>
<p>I just thought it odd that he/she would say that Stanford only competes with MIT and Caltech, when the usual tippy-top three are MIT, Stanford, and Berkeley.</p>
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And from reading your post you seem to show a great tendency in praising berkeley this and berkeley that.
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<p>Not really; I do see many strengths in Berkeley--many more than the prestige-obsessed students on CC tend--but I do have many criticisms of it.</p>
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Are you some kind of berkeley spy in the stanford forum?
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<p>Nah, I just post in different college forums. My posts in the Stanford forum often have only to do with Stanford (though I believe you were involved in another thread regarding Berkeley, so perhaps that's why your view is a little skewed).</p>
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rhetorical question you don't have to answer.
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<p>Department of redundancy department? =p</p>
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The course work is most definitely as rigorous as at MIT or Caltech. Think of it like this: take Caltech and add in a bunch of humanities and non-science/engineering fields
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<p>We have to take a humanity class a term, which means we have to take 12 classes of humanities during our time here. What's Stanford's core anyways? What leads you to believe that Stanford is as rigorous as MIT and Caltech in engineering anyways? (Not contesting the point, just curious about Stanford's program)</p>
<p>^^ look at the courses required, the grading curves, the average grades, etc. I'm pretty sure that Stanford's engineering is as rigorous. The same can be said of all the top schools. However, at engineering schools, you're restricted to those hard science classes, so the school itself may appear more difficult.</p>
<p>Stanford has contributed a lot in revolutionalizing the modern technolgies, probably more so than any other place in the world in the last 3 decades. Lots of great inventions have ties to Stanford. Examples include:</p>
<p>Internet (TCP/IP internet protocol, 56k modem, DSL, multiprotocol internet router, yahoo, google, altavista, SUN work station, ethernet)</p>
<p>public key cryptography</p>
<p>GPS</p>
<p>RADAR (Klystron, over the horizon radar)</p>
<p>spy satellite</p>
<p>Laser (Maser, first working laser, CO2 laser)</p>
<p>microprocessor, RISC computers</p>
<p>genetic engineering, micro array</p>
<p>digital music synthesis</p>
<p>artifitial intelligience (expert system, LISP, 1st robot arm, 1st robot cart, shakey the robot, driverless cars 'Stanley' and 'junior') </p>
<p>Tex, SQL, MATLAB, microsoft word</p>
<p>transistor</p>
<p>satellite TV</p>
<p>oral birth control.</p>
<p>I think it is fair to say Stanford has greatly changed our world through its technology inventions, again, more so than any other place.</p>
<p>@datalook
it's more like Stanford's CS department not just Stanford :) but I'm not disagreeing with you, Stanford CS department is the best place in the world to go to especially for students who have interest in start ups and other entrepreneurial stuff.</p>
<p>Yes datalook, certainly fair to say that Stanford has changed the world. Not so fair to say more so than any other place.</p>
<p>(For the record, I'm not slagging Stanford - I think it's amazing - but datalook incessantly evangelizes about Stanford's engineering/CS... it's like he's on the payroll or something)</p>
<p>1of42,</p>
<p>I thought you were at caltech, now at Princeton?</p>
<p>Which school in your mind has done more in technology inventions than Stanford? Will that school be able to match Stanford's contributions on my list? Yes, just the ones on my list, the ones that I know of.</p>
<p>@pearlygate</p>
<p>Take a look at US news. After MIT, Berkeley ties for Stanford as top undergraduate engineering school. It ranks HIGHER than Caltech.</p>
<p>Sure Berkeley isn't as prestigious overall as the 3 privates, but we're talking about engineering.</p>
<p>datalook: I was accepted to both Princeton and Caltech, and eventually chose Princeton.</p>
<p>I'm not going to get into this debate with you over which school is the best, because as countless previous threads have proved it is entirely futile and expends a great deal of wasted time and effort. All I will say is that there are a number of schools in that domain of excellence, including schools like MIT, Harvard, etc. I'm afraid I'm not willing to get into a ****ing contest over which school is the best, I just thought that in the interests of disclosure it would be wise to point out to everyone here your longstanding and clear bias (or preference if you prefer) of Stanford, so they are reading your opinions with full disclosure. :)</p>
<p>If you don't want to get into a contest, I'd suggest as a Princeton student you don't start posting in the Stanford forum. Just a suggestion. :)</p>
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All I will say is that there are a number of schools in that domain of excellence, including schools like MIT, Harvard, etc.
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Both MIT and Harvard are great. But when we talk about top-notched engineering programs, Harvard should be eliminated from the discussion right away, because it has plenty of catchup to do, at least for now. Besides Stanford, the other most competitive programs are MIT, Berkeley, and Caltech. Granted, US News still ranks MIT as #1 in engineering. But in the the last 30 to 40 years, Stanford has created more mile-stone level technology inventions. Stanford is the driving force in turning Silicon valley into the world's #1 technology center. Route 128 near MIT and Harvard is a distant #2 in terms of technology.</p>
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<p>Take a look at US news. After MIT, Berkeley ties for Stanford as top undergraduate engineering school. It ranks HIGHER than Caltech.</p>
<p>Sure Berkeley isn't as prestigious overall as the 3 privates, but we're talking about engineering.
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<p>DUDE, what are you talking about? I didn't even mention berkeley in my post.. don't even try to bring this thread into another stanford vs berkeley stuff. That kind topic has been beaten to death already by some regular berkeley posters here.</p>
<p>I'm talking about the Stanford's CS department and its amazing connection to start ups and industry. If you would imagine the "information age" as the "renaissance age", silicon valley would be Florence. So this is place where you would want to be...</p>
<p>@pearlygate</p>
<p>I was responding to your accusation of kyledavid being a "berkeley spy" because he mentioned berkeley in the thread.</p>
<p>I just wanted to point out that berkeley is a top class engineering school that deserves credit when you bring up top undergrad engineering programs. Kyle's mentioning of it doesn't show bias towards it at all. You accuse him of favoring berkeley, yet within this thread, he obviously isn't.</p>