<p>Can somebody please tell me the stats of people in Harvard, JHU, and WUSTL medical schools</p>
<p>The USNWR issue ranking grad schools has a directory in the back of all the medical schools which includes average entering GPA, and average MCAT subsection score. Not all the schools have all the information listed, and who knows exactly how recent or accurate the data is, but that's one source I know.</p>
<p>1.) Also the MSAR available from Amazon has good numbers.</p>
<p>2.) Why's Penn left off that list?</p>
<p>3.) <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=213924%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=213924</a></p>
<p>According to that, if I get a 3.86 undergrad GPA, do some decent research, and 35 on the MCAT then I have a good chance of getting in?</p>
<p>But is this GPA average different much for different schools? What GPA would I need at UMD?</p>
<p>no, many people w/ higher gpas then that get rejected, it's almost like applying to the hypscm, in that a 2400 doesn;t quite really means anything even close to an acceptance...why r u so determined to go to the top 10 med schools? o.O, wow, it should be noted that med schools r a whole different game, should probably open options a bit more =D gl!</p>
<p>"According to that, if I get a 3.86 undergrad GPA, do some decent research, and 35 on the MCAT then I have a good chance of getting in?"</p>
<p>Well, no. Unless you are amazing in literally every facet of the application, you will still get rejected by most of the Top 20 med schools you apply to. Even the best applicants only get into 2-3 top schools.</p>
<p>You'd also need good essays, LORs, and interviews. And probably at least two of these components need to be stellar. And you need to be lucky.</p>
<p>Mean GPA changes much more slowly than mean MCAT score. Of all the variables GPA is the one that stays the most constant among medical schools. To compare schools (Missouri is in the middle of my MSAR), WUSTL has a median 38, 3.9. Mizzou has a 29, 3.7. You can see that the fluctuation in MCAT is large while the fluctuation in GPA is not as large.</p>
<p>Ok, a 3.86, 37 MCAT, good essays, and good LORs from UMD. Then do I have a chance at the top 5?</p>
<p>1.) You're ignoring EC's -- research, clinical service. </p>
<p>2.) Application timing.</p>
<p>3.) Interviews.</p>
<p>Even so, remember, you need to have at least two of these factors be really spectacular, not just "good".</p>
<p>Of the top five, three of them are particularly fussy and arbitrary (Harvard, Hopkins, UCSF). WUSTL and Penn are a little more consistent. Of the top ten, Stanford is also very tempermental and arbitrary, UW is also very state-resident biased.</p>
<p>Then you need to be very lucky.</p>
<p>The point is that outside of a few extraordinary applicants, no one's going to have a great shot at a top 5 med school, not with acceptance rates around 3-5%. But yes, you can have a shot coming from UMD.</p>