<p>What did ppl get for SAT scores, extra curricular activities, and all that? I dunno whether i should risk my ea on Yale</p>
<p>Well, if you are set on Yale, you should apply EA. It increases your chances dramatically over getting in via RD. Here are some stats that we collected for EA applicants: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=17329%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=17329</a></p>
<p>21% SCEA admit rate vs 18% SCEA admit rate at Yale.</p>
<p>No need to settle for 2nd best!</p>
<p>thanks, ummm has anyone been accepted that was not top 10 of their graduating class? I have had really poor academic results untill 10th grade. In 11th grade i got really good marks, but still only top 20 or 30. Think that's gonna be enough if i pull off results like that in 12th grade?</p>
<p>Byerly...I thought you prided yourself at not insulting other schools? 2nd best...yeah...that's really civil of you. And even if it's not insulting it's just annoying, he/she is asking about Yale not your opinion about Harvard.</p>
<p>He's only saying it's <em>easier</em> to get into Harvard EA than to Yale EA...</p>
<p>Correct. The OP expressed concern about the relative "risk" vs. reward involved in applying ED or SCEA.</p>
<p>I don't think "2nd best" is too harsh, barski; out of thousands of colleges, I'd take 2nd best in a heartbeat. I'm sure Yale wouldn't be too hurt by that.</p>
<p>Oh, I thought Yale's admit rate for SCEA was 16% this year. Anyway, Yale, compared to other ivies, is the hardest to get into.</p>
<p>On what basis do you make <strong><em>THAT</em></strong> claim?</p>
<p>well ok, maybe not hardest..but I think the SCEA acceptance rate for Yale is the lowest for all ivies. </p>
<p>...Didn't you say yourself that one's odds are better at Harvard rather than at Yale?</p>
<p>I was just looking at the stats given by ivy success's website: <a href="http://ivysuccess.com/admission_stats_2009.html%5B/url%5D">http://ivysuccess.com/admission_stats_2009.html</a> </p>
<p>not that I do ivy success...lol...</p>
<p>EDIT</p>
<p>OH you know what? You're right. My bad. the SCEA rate was 17.9% :P</p>
<p>you also have a much better chance at being unhappy at harvard ;)</p>
<p>Not according to the stats. </p>
<ol>
<li><p>Harvard undergrads are far more likely to be attending their first-choice school.</p></li>
<li><p>Harvard admits are far more likely to be happy about the invitation - and to accept - than admits at any other school.</p></li>
<li><p>Harvard matriculants are more likely to stay - and to graduate - than students at any other college or university in the United States of America.</p></li>
<li><p>Although free to do so, almost NO students ever transfer out of Harvard; on the other hand, THOUSANDS seek to transfer in.</p></li>
<li><p>Alumni support from graduates of Harvard College is virtually unparalleled, at no school its size is alumni support stronger. This is the main reason Harvard has the world's largest endowment, and why it regularly receives more in alumni donations than any other college or university in the United States of America.</p></li>
<li><p>Few would trade their 4 years in Cambridge for 4 years anywhere else.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>This negative cliche about "happiness" - like so many others about "lack of undergrad focus" etc etc - has it primary appeal to partisans of other schools - such as you, Bulldog - who are reduced to sniping about intangibles when faced with so much tangible evidence that the top students, now, as in the past, overwhelmingly prefer Harvard when given a choice.</p>
<p>I guess you don't like the fact that harvard students rank lowest in the ivy's in terms of happiness. At least they began happy as you say... Truly, harvard is justified by alot more than the decisions of high school seniors who know close to nothing about college life save anectodal evidence or a weekend - nor do they probably know what will make them happy after four years of such monumental change. I thought with your prestigious undergraduate and law degrees, you could have come up with some more substance - but there is none, just the same old quasi-facts, which you spin into whatever imagined assault against harvard you are defending.</p>
<p>And your list is an absurd argument that harvard students are happy - you give circumstantial evidence, hardly tangibles (how can you list points 2 and 6 without a shred of evidence - in fact, the only tangible was an assesment of student happiness, and though flawed, is surely more solid than your inflated notions of a university which "lacks undergraduate focus")</p>
<p>PS: could you do me a favor and dig up % donations from COLLEGE alumni. I believe you that harvard wins, but princeton alumns are so damn annoying...</p>
<p>I will ignore the other stuff, which is generally a rehash of your standard "talking points",</p>
<p>I will say, however, that to the best of my knowledge Princeton does have the greatest <em>percentage</em> of undergrads who contribute annually among the Ivies, with Harvard (formerly Dartmouth) second.</p>
<p>The per capita contributions at Harvard (and Stanford) are much higher.</p>
<p>Why this is so - in either instance - is a matter about which one can speculate.</p>
<p>I DO know that at Notre Dame - which also has a very high alumni contribution rate - contributors to the alumni fund at a certain level get an edge in buying football tickets.</p>
<p>I have heard catty remarks from some in "the trade" that there are schools (unnamed, to protect the guilty) which count as "contributors" anyone who pays dues to the alumni association, subscribes to the alumni magazine, or uses an affiliate Mastercard or Visa. Shocking stuff, no?</p>
<p>And it pains me to say this, but I have also heard that at ONE Ivy (again, unnamed) enthusiastic fundraising personages have been known to make a flock of $5 contriubutions in the name of normally deadbeat classmates in order to inflate the "giving rate"! Not at Harvard, of course.</p>
<p>Name them! Name them!</p>
<p>Please don't turn this Yale thread into a Harvard thread, Byerly. You have a nasty habit of doing that.</p>
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<p>Getting this thread back on topic:</p>
<p>To the OP - I second Newt. If you are absolutely set on Yale, by all means apply EA. It is the best way to demonstrate your enthusiasm.</p>
<p>I was sort of set on Yale before I did research and saw that Harvard offers Gaelic, Sanskrit, Dutch, Swedish, AND architecture.</p>
<p>:(</p>
<p>Well, Yale offers Yorùbá, Zulu, Czech, Persian, and BETTER architecture. Harvard only offers "History of Art and Architecture;" Yale has an actual, amazing Architecture major.</p>
<p>:p</p>
<p>Right, but I REALLY want to study Gaelic and Sanskrit, and I heard that Yale's classics program is a bit sub par.</p>
<p>Now my heart is torn! They're both probably way beyond me, too, which makes it worse. Awww.</p>