Stay an extra year for Haas?

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<p>Hey guys, I'm kind of conflicted right now and I'd like your guys' advice. I'm currently a rising senior in high school and plan to go straight to a community college after I graduate in hopes of transferring as a business/economics major. I will be taking classes throughout my senior year which would allow me to transfer out in one year to UCLA Business Economics, UC Berkeley Economics, and USC Marshall. My top choice is Haas, but I realized that I'd need to take an additional 19 units to fulfill their requirements. This would set me back an extra year as I can't fit it into my one year schedule. </p>

<p>What do you guys think I should do? Would graduating from Haas make a big difference for finding top employment as opposed to the other schools mentioned? I understand there is absolutely no guarantee I'd even get into Haas, but I'd be willing to go for it anyway.</p>

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<p>At this economic state, the school name doesn't even matter much but I bet Haas certainly give the students some advantages. </p>

<p>Admission to Haas is very tough because even a 4.0 doesn't give you 100% chance for acceptance so if you have a other schools' offers, you should consider them too like the financial aid package, programs... don't just attend a school entirely based on the name. </p>

<p>Personally, I turned down UCB for UCLA because I like LA area much better and I have no regret on that decision.</p>

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<p>omg your still thinking of haas? what if you dont get in? thats an EXTRA year...All i have to say is one thing, things dont always go as expected e.g. you probably wont do everything your planning on doing to get in, trust me, i know that what ever i have to say wont matter, and that what ever any one says you wont listen and are just hoping to hear what you want (no offense, im like that too) but the only way i can get that through your head is by you actually experiencing it, im assuming you think college will be a piece of cake, once you find out its not that easy youve already misguided yourself, you think you can find a job for haas, what if you dont? you think youll get all a's, but calc is insane! you think you join clubs, but so do 50 other people with only 5 spots</p>

<p>i wanted to go to haas and i know you know who i am, but things didnt seem as planned, things are easier said than done...i thought Id maintain 4.0 but i was points away from getting a b, luckily i got an a, and if that was just philosophy, how do i expect calc to be easier, pretty much that is why im cautious</p>

<p>i worry about it because right now i have classes and im procastinating so i dont know if im that well driven (or maybe its because im taking random classes)</p>

<p>look im just trying to help you, you can forget everything i say or you can at least open your eyes, i admit you seem motivated but things change...</p>

<p>p.s. what im doing is seeing how well i do this summer and if its 4.0 i will try haas but if i getg more than 2 b's its straight for USC</p>

<p>and USC means i can afford many b's, dont need job exp, dont need time consuming clubs....a lot less stress</p>

<p>pm me if anything</p>

<p>also, dont get offended by anything i said, if you dont like what i have to say just ignore it, dont take it personally, i dont mean any disrespect if any.</p>

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<p>^^^ Goodness. We have a pessimist on our hands. BTW I don't know of ANY sophomore transfers that were admitted to USC Marshall this year without a 4.0 GPA. Maybe there are some, but I haven't met any. Juniors usually float around in the 3.7+ range with A's in all of their pre-requisites.</p>

<p>If it's your first choice, go for it. Really. :) I'm not sure about job prospects being that much better but if you are admitted, the sense of accomplishment will be unbelievable.</p>

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<p>im not pessimistic im just trying to be as harsh and straight foward as possible so these kids don't lose their hopes...were talking about people who one day want to go to usc and change their mind in one day to go to haas because someone told them about how good it was (not referring to you), especially when you have to ask about top employment, not a good idea at all.</p>

<p>p.s. dont think about saying im in your hands, im not your ***** for you to be taking care of me i dont depend on you at all...dont even regard yourself as being higher than me</p>

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<p>NoworLater- I think the issue has to do with applying to more than 1 school. From personal experience, I can only tell you that even applying to two is a bad idea. Since jk_91 is so motivated, if he does really well in all of his classes he has the option of considering multiple schools in the same caliber as HAAS and UCLA Biz Econ and USC etc., It's hard to juggle all the classes for IGETC and private schools so making this thread was wise. Now he can gauge if he should or will be able to transfer earlier than intended. Of course, we're just serving as a base for opinion.</p>

<p>I'm not even going to Marshall, I'm just saying that's the general trend of the sophomores that I've spoken to. This thread has the stats of those accepted students: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/513075-official-usc-transfer-decisions-2008-stats-only.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/513075-official-usc-transfer-decisions-2008-stats-only.html&lt;/a> And there is one floating around here for HAAS people as well. "They" will only lose hope if they give up before they try. I see where you're going though. Yes, these programs are very selective and it can be heartbreaking to not get into your #1 school.</p>

<p>I apologize if I came off as being condescending in my last post.</p>

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<p>I don't know how we got to that but heres what I have to say:</p>

<p>Don't worry about USC and UCLA too much, if you do well you should be fine...If you happen to not done so well (hopefully not, but things happen) before the 19 extra units, and you don't think you have much of a chance (keep in mind Haas recommends 4.0 and it's not guaranteed), just apply to those two.</p>

<p>Okay from what I'm aware of, if you have 3.8 or lower your pretty much done with haas...so if that happened to me, i would not spend my time on Haas and just apply to USC and UCLA, the reason why you think im pessimistic is because im saying if you do get ONE B dont give up, because this guy is shooting for the stars, and usually when people are so high and they stumble they will fall, but if he starts cautious like im trying to tell him to, he will not stumble...heres my moto "Hope for The Best, Expect The Worst" every thing i explained has to do with this, be prepared, dont be hopeless.</p>

<p>people have acted like jk_91, and became a mess once something went wrong (remember it doesn't have to be that your not motivated, it could happen from anything that you would never expect, disaster, death, heart break) If i remember right it was happening to that guy in Orange County when he didnt get accepted</p>

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<p>True. For some reason, at least one big event like that happens. =P</p>

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<p>I, uh...kind of see where he's going, and I respect his opinion. I would consider myself a motivated student, but I wouldn't really put myself in the class of those that suddenly get a light bulb above their head and come on and say they'll get into Haas because they'll get a 4.0 (no offense). I've thought this over for a while now, and I think the fact that I've started thinking about transferring since the first semester of my junior year shows it. I've even already planned out both a one year and a two year schedule on notepad so I can keep this whole process organized.</p>

<p>I've taken honors and AP courses in high school, so I know what it's like to work hard for something. In fact, I think it's a little unfair that you say I won't be motivated anymore once I start college because I took a community college course last summer and I'm in my second course this summer (aced my first one and top of class). I am still very motivated, heck, even more so than before I started because now I know what it takes to shoot for that 4.0. I know a few summer courses don't tell how I'll do for the rest of my time in community college, but I have a better idea of how these classes are run as opposed to before I even started when I was only dreaming of the 4.0. I may get the 4.0 at the end of my time in CC, and I may not. I won't be crushed if I don't get a 4.0, but I think it's important to set my bar as high as possible so I can do my best. </p>

<p>As for other privates, WOT, it is something I've thought about. I would love to go to Stanford or even Brown (opposite side of the country, I know), but I won't really count on getting in for obvious reasons. To be honest, even though Haas is my number once choice, I would be just as ecstatic to get into UCLA for Business Economics or USC Marshall. I've even already printed out a picture of some of the schools and posted them on top of my monitor for motivational purposes. :)</p>

<p>And yes, I'm very aware of who you are.</p>

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<p>I have two words for you: Trojan Network.</p>

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<p>Sounds dirty.</p>

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<p>Peace!!! Do not forget that the main issue here should be helping jk_91 making a decision.</p>

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<p>Yeah, I know about the Trojan Network, but I've heard some criticism about it that it's not all that great. I should also mention that cost is quite a big factor for me, so going to USC or not would heavily depend on if their financial aid can match the cost of attending a UC.</p>

<p>My number one choice school would be UC Berkeley (not just Haas), as it is my mom's dream for me to go there and I intend to make her proud.</p>

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<p>long thread, lazy to read, sorry
if u like econ classes, cool. go for econ
if u wanna see what biz com classes are really like, u can sneak into haas lectures without anyone ever knowing. no i m not kidding
thats if ur really interested tho, thats an option.</p>

<p>if ur really considering haas then why not try for it. even if u don't get in, no regrets.
i don't see how your "years" are important if ur doing something u truly like rather than looking at the figures u make when u get out.</p>

<p>i think u've posted exactly the same thing more than once. If ur serious about haas go for it. if ur not why even ask the question twice. this kind of decisions follow u thu out ur life, u don't go around asking who u should marry do u.</p>

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<p>Yeah, Guardiangel makes a good point. I guess jk_91 should just apply and see what happens. If accepted, great; if not, consider other options.</p>

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<p>I see where you're going. I actually just looked at my schedule and it looks like I could transfer to Haas in one year, but that would mean a 12 unit summer (6 units for two sessions) and I wouldn't be able to take Calculus 2 and both accounting courses required for UCLA Business Economics and recommended for USC Marshall. Basically, I'd be putting it all on the line for Haas, though I'd still be very happy to get into Marshall (though how much financial aid I get will determine if I'll attend).</p>

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<p>marshall gives insanely generous finan aid, u won't have to worry about.</p>

<p>problem about squeezing haas reqs in 1 year tho
1. u take a ton of classes
2. u fark up in some of the classes
3. u don't get into haas
whats the most technical term for that?
pwned =/</p>

<p>if u think that being younger than the average student would give u an edge, there are 17 year olds here, as well as people in their late 30s. this summer showed me something spectacular, cuz i have never sat in a room with a more diverse group of people in my life.</p>

<p>take ur time to do wut u need to do and do it well. thats all i m saying</p>

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<p>Yeah, that totally makes sense. But really, a 17-year-old? How did that happen? I know that even when I transfer in one year I'll only be 18.</p>

<p>Btw, did you get into Marshall? What other schools did you apply to?</p>

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<p>yeh got into marshall
marshall wasn't my safety tho... i was 100% mentally prepared for marshall cuz who can be arrogant enough to be confident about getting into haas.
i met a ton of transfers and for many of the transfers, haas was the only school they applied to. if they didn't get in they'll just try again the next year.</p>

<p>i applied to UCR for safety. don't mean to offend any bruins but i'd rather go to UCR and do biz admin than biz econ at UCLA. i don't suck at math or anything i just don't like doing econ =/ what can i say</p>

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<p>I guess it's understandable that you'd pick UCR over UCLA for the major. What exactly will be your concentration in business?</p>