<p>I was just wondering if anyone else who's going to stern is worried about the stern curve and maintaining a high gpa</p>
<p>considering that the average SAT at stern is 1440 and only the top 20% of kids in each class gets either an A or A-</p>
<p>i take comfort in the fact that 50% of the class had less than a 1450 (the median as reported by businessweek), and that good standardized test scores do not automatically translate into a good gpa.</p>
<p>I don't know about your high school's grading system, but at my school we had grade DEFLATION. In a class of 30 kids in AP US History, we had 3 As/A-s. In most of our AP english courses as well, we probably had 1 A/A- in a class of 20.</p>
<p>So contrary to everyone's concern about the curve, I am actually relieved.</p>
<p>grade deflation for business is bad, because one needs a 3.5 for interviews. everyone on the lower end of the scale is going to get screwed over when looking for a job, even though they might be more competent than other applicants.</p>
<p>hey you guys, I'm looking at the representative program for a Stern undergrad, and in first year, there was a natural science and no elective. So I'm wondering if you have to take a science in 1st year and if you could take another elective instead?</p>
<p>Well, the Stern curve really only exists for finance - for every other Stern class, it's just the prof making up a curve and that happens in other schools at NYU too. It really will not make a difference for you unless you happen to be in some really easy class where half the class is getting above an 85% or something... Plus, the curve makes it kinda easy to get a B/B+ with 0 effort. You only have to work a little harder to get the occasional A- (3.7) or you can just take CAS classes and pad your GPA - I mean, have a CAS major and look more well rounded ;P But no, seriously, double major outside of Stern! It's not worth the credits to do it in Stern unless you're an IB comajor...</p>
<p>dontwanttogrowup: Yes, you can leave the nat sci until even senior year if you want, unless you plan on taking classes later on that have nat sci as a prereq.</p>
<p>For freshman year, the only AP credits that we can transfer seem to be a science and calc ab. If I have the AP credit should I 'cash' it in or retake the class for a grade (gpa pad)?</p>
<p>i thought that no math classes econ, calc, micro, macro could be transfered</p>
<p>only calc ab and a science can be transferred to fill the MAP requirement.</p>
<p>wait is there a difference between MAP requirements and Stern requirements? are MAP requirements in addition to Stern requirements? if so what is it, and please post your source.</p>
<p>Does anybody know if it is hard to get minimum 3.5 GPA for finance in Stern? Thanks</p>
<p>seoul: calculus doesn't 'fill' a requirement - if you transfer your AP credits for that in, you just get to take the next level of calculus! :D Definitely apply your credits for the natsci req - you really don't need it to boost your GPA since you can take other, more interesting electives that are equally easy. Calc... well, since you'll have to take at least one math class anyway, it's up to you, but why waste another couple thousand on something you've already learned?</p>
<p>deadlysyphen: I think they kind of mean the same thing (MAP & Stern requirements) because Stern, as part of its core curriculum, requires MAP classes like Writing the Essay, Conversations of the West, etc. However, you won't be taking the full MAP program. See this worksheet for more details: <a href="http://w4.stern.nyu.edu/emplibrary/CR_Wksht_2010_Updated.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://w4.stern.nyu.edu/emplibrary/CR_Wksht_2010_Updated.pdf</a> This is for the class of 2010, though, so there may be additional changes to the requirements for you guys, but it should be close enough.</p>
<p>AP POLICY:
<a href="http://w4.stern.nyu.edu/emplibrary/APstanding-Fall2006v9.20.06pdf.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://w4.stern.nyu.edu/emplibrary/APstanding-Fall2006v9.20.06pdf.pdf</a></p>
<p>highlights:
- you must take 1 math class. You can apply AP calc, but if you do, you must take calc 2 or another higher level math class to fulfill your req.
- you can't use AP stats, but you can take a proficiency test to get out of 4 of the 6 credit stats class.
- any AP science credits can be used to fulfill the natsci req
- AP psych and AP art history might be applied if you decide to take a CAS major in either of those subjects, but you have to check first.
- all other AP classes will either not count, or they'll be elective credits.</p>
<p>cckid: not if you try. B+ is fairly easy to get if you show up to class, do your work, don't flake on group projects, etc. Then you just need to get a couple A-s sprinkled in, and you've got your 3.5...</p>
<p>:( would that mean that i would have to take Calc3/ODE even if I transfer my ab+bc credit?</p>
<p>well, you could take linear algebra. I've taken calc 3, lin alg, and ode (currently taking it this semester), and they're not that bad. Does BC count for calc 2? If so, yeah. You could probably take discrete math too, if you prefer that one.</p>
<p>well you can always take either ab or bc, whichever one you liked better as a gpa booster.</p>
<p>But the waste! Such a waste. If you're decent at math at all (and if you did well enough on the AP exam that you could transfer your credits, you probably are), you'll probably do fine in higher math classes. At least in linear algebra & calc 3, there are a lot of kids who are just in there because it's a prereq for their major, so the curves tend to be easy.</p>
<p>Does lin alg, calc 3, and ode at NYU require lots of Maple use? We haven't used Maple much in our classes...</p>
<p>Not at all. You can't even use a calculator on exams.</p>
<p>Great! Doesn't no calculator=easy exam? Or maybe not -_-</p>