<p>okay, so I have been looking through this site and I have heard many pros and cons about Stern and its chances at BB IB undergrad job placement</p>
<p>i would like to know what current/past Stern students think about the situation (especially now in the banking crisis)....very difficult to get a BB job?</p>
<p>also, I have heard some consider Stern as a "semi-target" for recruitment...the main reason I applied (and accepted) to NYU was b/c I like the city, and am currently a co-developer of building homes.....so i want to go to nyu but i would just like to know your take on the average undergrads ability to get 1) an internship and 2) a job after they graduate</p>
<p>ty</p>
<p>I'm still a freshman, but the sense at stern seems to be that getting a job is no problem, just that with the current crisis, people may not be getting the jobs they expected to get entering. There are still plenty of boutique banks recruiting and hiring, and still a handful of BB's. It's just that it will be much harder in the current markets to find the job that they want with the increased competition than it normally would otherwise, but it should get better in a few years, at least by the time you or I need to find a job. Some people are just p issed cause they came in expecting to get a BB job, and might have to settle for a boutique. It's the same situation with internships, still decent amount of internships, just might be more competition and have to work harder for the one you want.</p>
<p>yeah, i guess the top students still can get into the BBs that they want....im really good at math and science, but blow at english, spanish, ss and i know that you you need to take them under MAP....how hard do you find them? cause i heard that the grading method is odd...any classes that you suggest (easiest)?</p>
<p>As long as you try in them, they aren't as bad as they may seem. I went to half my classes, and still got a 3.575. I would suggest trying to place out of writing the essay (get above a 750 on sat writing) cause that class just blows and will bring down your gpa no matter what. Nat Sci is a pretty easy class that will boost your gpa (suggest taking how things work - an easy intro to intro physics class). Conwest and World Cultures you can't get out of, but look on ratemyprofessor or nyu's course eval before you register for any classes - trust me you'll regret it if you don't. For Conwest, take the Democracy one - my friend was in it and they get packets to read as opposed to books, grade is only determined by three eight page essays, no midterm and take home final. Also, unless you plan on econ theory, actuarial science, or anything like that, do yourself a favor and just take Calc I (take Johns). Unless you have a dieing love for math, Calc I is not too hard and won't kill you (unlike the MUCH more intense Calc II and Calc III), plus it could potentially boost your gpa. Stern classes will teach you whatever you will need for finance, as they also incorporate relevant math concepts, so it's not like your done with calc forever after Calc I. Basically, first semester freshman year is all the required courses that are moderately easy and suck, but if you choose the right professors you could use it as a gpa booster and a relatively relaxing period. Second semester is much more intense, but at least you'll have an interest in the stuff you're learning. And that grading curve you're referring to is the stern curve, which only applies to stern courses. It means that professors can only give out about 30% A's, 40% B's, etc. (not sure if those are the exact numbers, but something like that). I know it sucks, but just be glad that they recently changed it from 20% A's.</p>