<p>Hello, I'm probably going to attend Stern this fall as a transfer. My question is: Can Stern compete with the top programs...I'm talking about HYP, Columbia, Stanford, UMICH Ross, UPENN Wharton, UCHICAGO Econ, and so on?! I know Stern is a great, great program...but do business firms around the nation/globe hold the Stern degree with the same weight as that from the best of the best?</p>
<p>Please be as objective as possible lol</p>
<p>FINANCE:</p>
<ol>
<li>Wharton</li>
<li>STERN</li>
</ol>
<p>GENERAL BUSINESS:</p>
<ol>
<li>Wharton</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Berkeley/Michigan</li>
<li>STERN</li>
</ol>
<p>Ibanking placement (for undergrad biz ONLY):</p>
<ol>
<li>Wharton</li>
<li>STERN</li>
<li>Indiana</li>
</ol>
<p>Lots of bulge bracket ibanks recruit at Stern as well as Chicago, Wharton, HYP, Columbia, Stanford, Michigan (not quite as many) and so on.....you can't go wrong with any of the colleges you listed.
I think....
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<p>indiana as third ibanking placement? that's 'new' to me. I mean, is indiana really that good (its so easy to get in.. not that selectivity nessecarily converts into good placement). Not trying to say you're inaccurate or anything, just think its sth interesting to look at. </p>
<p>(well one reason stern places so many ppl in ibanking, as many ppl have mentioned, is because many goes there planing/wanting to go in that field)</p>
<p>Well Indiana has a really high placement rate. I don't know how it compares exactly with Stern/Wharton/Ivies, but its something like that. Also notice I excluded schools that don't have Undergrad business. If I were to included all schools and not just ones with undergrad business, schools like ivies and Chicago would take Stern and Indiana's respective places.</p>
<p>Indiana should be the bottom of the bottom for placements... all the Ivy's, Stanford, Stern, Chicago, Northwestern, MIT, and UMich would blast IU out of the water as far as placements go (even though most of these schools dont even offer business).</p>
<p>lol there are a tons of post why indiana is good at ibanking placement, just look at alot of other ib/ranking related threads Also UVA, umich, gtown and the other ivies are pretty close or some slightly better than IU for ib placement...Transvaal what do you have against indiana, you keep tryin to put it down, i dont know why</p>
<p>Because it does not compare to the schools listed above. I've look at their stats, they place a tiny % of their students into investment banking, like around 30 or so out of 1500 kids (most of them being in their I-Banking workshop). The school is also extremely easy to get into compared to other schools around IU's rank. They will virtually take anyone who has a GPA over a 3.0. Even UIUC, WashU, Emory, Notre Dame Georgetown and some others that are ranked lower have better qualified students (way higher admission standards) and an overall better university. </p>
<p>I don't even see how anyone is going to say IU is an investment banking/consulting recruiting ground. It is far from one in my honest opinion.</p>
<p>transveal ..ur 100% correct..the dopes on this board who think indiana has good placement are completely moronic. The average sat score is 1189...some of the dumbest students from my hgih school went there and just becuase top firms recruit at Indiana does not mean they are recruiting for coveted front office positions...indiana students, if they do get a job at a top firm will be placed in back office, operations type positions. They don't stand a chance when competing against any top 25 school for ibanking. I agree they may have good professors, but the students are not bright and wall street knows that.</p>
<p>Yes, Stern is as good as the likes of Haas, McIntire, Ross and Sloan...especially on Wall Street.</p>
<p>how does Haas undergrad stack up?</p>
<h1>3 in ibanking placement for indiana? i don't think so.</h1>
<p>only a tiny miniscule percentage of kelley students get ibanking jobs. and the thing is, for the VERY few students that do, their resumes are stacked. 3.8+ gpa at least with top internships and finance related activities, etc.</p>
<p>imo, i would choose all of the schools that you listed over stern. (HYP, wharton, stanford, columbia, ross, and chicago)</p>
<p>"do business firms around the nation/globe hold the Stern degree with the same weight as that from the best of the best?"</p>
<p>i'd say no. stern will get you a decent job and the placement on wall street is ridiculous, but i wouldn't think a stern degree could or would carry the same weight as those top schools that you listed.</p>
<p>SPORTS UR POSTS ARE THE DUMBEST I HAVE EVER SEEN. THE 60 STUDENTS GRADUATING FROM IU GOING TO WALL STREET ALL HAVE EITHER M & A POSITIONS, DEBT/EQUITY ISSUE POSITIONS OR SALES AND TRADING. GO TO THE WEBSITE. dont be mad because you spent all you life being a loser and studying your entire life to go to cornell and then get beat out by a kid with much more social skills and when they work hard they out do you in placement. you are quite possibly the biggest idiot i have ever seen posting anything. GO TO THE WEBSITE AND YOU WILL SEE EACH AND EVERYONE OF THE KIDS PLACED IS IN A CORPORATE FINANCE (M & A, CAPITAL MARKET ISSUES) OR SALES AND TRADING POSITION...YOUR VIEWS ARE THE MOST REDICULOUS THINGS I HAVE EVER READ IN MY ENTIRE LIFE...and to add to that ,yea you are right the admission standards arent that great to get into iu or kelley, but then the school molds these kids into the stellar graduates they have become, which is easily seen by their ranking above all the schools you are crying about them outplacing.</p>
<p>dude chill out, just because sports views are different doesnt make him an idiot or loser. There are a ton of people that actually doesnt need to spend a lot of time studying and still get in top schools (maybe not HYPS, but top 10-30).
hm.. and if you mean by 60, that there are 60 ppl in the graduating class that goes into ibanking, then i dont think the placement is that great, considering its 60/1500? </p>
<p>about your last few sentences... so are you saying going to IU kelly will make you better off than going to all the other schools that is ranked below?? im just not too convinced with that.</p>
<p>Yeahhh okay, I'm sure you don't have to study alot to get into the ivy league and stanford and so on, that makes alot of sense. and no im not sayin it will make you better off all i am saying is that if you want to and are determined to get into ibanking you do have a good chance. This idiot says that all of them go into back office jobs when he is completely wrong. Also i dont really care what you consider great or if your convinced because you have no idea what factors go into that percentage. All of you need to think before you speak before you say things completely wrong. Also its pretty plausible to beleive it can make you better off considering the ranking, you know thats why they exist, there must be some reason they got an a+ in job placement and top ten ranking in bw. and sports views are not just different they are completely innacurate and he needs to do some research before he speaks</p>
<p>yeah, sports is a bit harsh on everything even when he has no idea what he is talking about. but he always gets correct for spewing out plain crap. IU recruiting is good for its top grads.</p>
<p>I am a sophomore in Stern and I am trying to transfer. I have a 3.7 and have taken most of Stern's core. Honestly it is not a tough school it is just the curve that kills you and makes everyone WAY WAY too competitive (try having a 96% and getting a B+). Administration sucks, housing is terrible, the only thing that holds this school up is it is in NYC. I have had some of the sweetest internships that most seniors would drool over to have. But in the long run, business is business and you either will be able to sell yourself or you wont when it comes to getting a job. If I could go back in time, I would have accepted Amherst and not Stern because going to an Ivy or some place considered a "little" Ivy like Amherst or Claremont is a better education and it honestly looks better. No matter what your major is, intelligence wise most people at Ivy league schools will be smarter than kids at Stern. BTW if anyone does transfer in...just be prepared, smiling faces become knifes in backs very quickly when it comes to academics.</p>
<p>You definitely shouldn't under-rank Umich because 1/3 of their class entered Investment Banking and I think it had the third highest percentage of kids who went onto investment banking. Maybe even second, but definitely third.</p>
<p>In my analyst class of 70, there was not one person from Indiana there during any of my three years. During my two years at a Top 10 MBA school, there was no one from Indiana in my class or the ones above or below me.</p>
<p>so if ur not in an Ivy league school, ur chances of getting an IB job are significantly reduced?</p>