strong math and physics departments

<p>^^Montana State > Yale,MIT?? Yowza.</p>

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I would agree if the ranking were adjusted for the sizes of the schools or departments.</p>

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I would agree if the ranking were adjusted for the sizes of the schools or departments.

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Institutions are limited to four nominees, and I'm not sure accounting for size would change anything. Many LACs have a record of producing at least two or three scholars each year. Caltech stomps Mudd in Goldwater Scholar production, even though it only has 100 more students. As another example, Reed has produced 23 Goldwater Scholars, a figure well in line with its science programs. </p>

<p>drb- Well, there are anomalies. I liked Tulsa's results, myself.</p>

<p>Hmmm. I would have thought that four winners from a pool of 400 would be better than four winners from a pool of 4000, especially repeatedly over the years, but you're right, we don't know if the pool of 4000 might have produced 40 winners, were there no limit. Still, I'm curious about scaled results, and I could find the answer if I were curious enough!</p>