struggling rising hs senior that needs help making a college list

hi! I’m a rising senior struggling to make a college list because I’m not exactly sure what schools would be good match/target schools (or even reach or safety schools), and I would like input from more people, especially because my guidance counselor has not been that helpful. I’m doing college research but i find i’m spending too long looking at schools that I end up not even liking. So if you could recommend me some colleges that I could focus on to help narrow down my list, that would be great! Also, any advice for researching colleges too would be so helpful!

Here are my stats:

State: NY
School: public (fairly-competitive)
GPA UW: 3.95 (at my school a 4.00 is all A+'s(97%), so never gotten below an A)
SAT: 1530 (Math: 780 RW: 750)
AP’s: AP Euro (3), AP Bio (5), AP Comp Sci A (5), APUSH (4), so AP Scholar with Honor
SAT II’s: Bio (M): 780, US hist: 750, taking Math 2 in August hopefully an 800 lol, but probably 770+
Rank: school doesn’t rank, I’d guess at least top 20%, but really hard to tell
Senior Year AP’s: AP Studio Art, AP Macro, AP Micro, AP Calc AB, AP Lit, AP French (graduate with 10 AP’s)
EC’s:
-Varsity Swimmer qualified for County Champs (4 years) (most likely co-captain senior year)
-swam on club team and competed in local meets (2 years in hs, 2 years in ms)
-President of charity knitting club (4 years)
-participate in some school clubs like book club, coding club, yearbook club
-National Honor Society, National Art Honor Society, Debate Honor Society, French Honor Society(held officer position)
-Very passionate about fine arts, won a couple of regional art competitions, did an intensive art portfolio program at an art school, will submit a supplement art portfolio to certain colleges (depending if they consider art portfolios or not)
-read to kids at local public library in a book buddies program
-volunteer at local children’s museum
-work experience: swim instructor for children, lifeguarding
Recommendations: my AP Bio teacher who is known for writing great personal rec letters, my French teacher who i’ve had for all 4 years of hs and the advisor for FHS, and my guidance counselor rec will be very generic (both my bio and french teacher nominated me for these awards my hs gives out, so i think they like me)

Now here is some college criteria:

-major: probably economics or sociology (may change mind after I take AP Econ, but leaning toward humanities majors). I’m considering getting an MBA after undergrad, but don’t really want to study business (unless as a double major/minor with international relations/business or maybe marketing) as an undergrad, rather have a liberal arts education, but not confined to LACs. (hopefully that made sense)
-gratefully and thankfully, my parents can pay for college, so financial aid is not a major deciding factor
-preferably a medium to big, but not too big, size school
-okay if some greek life, but not overbearing on social scene
-preferably near or in a large city, but good college towns are okay too
-prestige matters to an extent (like i’m not expecting ivies or anything, but don’t want to go somewhere no one has heard of)
-would like to minor in graphic design, so a college with an art program
-would like to stay on east coast or northwest
-again, i’m not sure i know what i want to study, so a college allows for flexibility, or has an interdisciplinary focus would be ideal. this is also why i’d rather not apply to the business school of a university to study economics.

so far i’ve been looking at schools like uchicago (huge reach tho), washu, nc chapel hill, nyu, vanderbilt, but i’m not great at researching schools (again tips for researching schools are greatly appreciated), so these might not even fit my own criteria. also, i’m an asian-american female so i’m not sure if that helps or decreases my chances. lastly, i’m not sure if i’m too confident in myself for looking at these schools, so if you have any feedback on that let me know!

Thanks for taking the time to read this long post! I really appreciate it!

Have you looked at… ?
Carnegie Mellon https://www.cmu.edu/interdisciplinary/programs/bhaprogram.html
Wesleyan https://www.wesleyancollege.edu/academics/undergraduate/majorsminors/Art-Major-Home-Page.cfm
UMichigan https://stamps.umich.edu/undergraduate-programs/minor
Fordham https://www.fordham.edu/info/23276/visual_arts_concentrations/5587/graphic_design/1
Smith (in 5 College Consortium) https://www.smith.edu/academics/art/studio-art
Clark (cross-reg w/ WPI and Holy Cross) http://catalog.clarku.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=13&poid=2362
BU http://www.bu.edu/cfa/academics/find-a-degreeprogram/cfa-minors/visual-arts-minor/
Lehigh http://www.aad.cas2.lehigh.edu/content/graphic-design-minor (maybe too Greek, but arts & econ and interdisciplinary stuff are all very good there)
U of Rochester http://www.sas.rochester.edu/aah/undergraduate/minors-clusters.html

Mid-Large (but not gigantic – so 5000-25000 students), in or near a city, strong humanities and arts, east coast or northwest:

Reach:
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Duke

Low reach:
Hopkins (check arts)
Georgetown (check arts)
CMU
Tufts

High match:
UNC OOS
UVA OOS

Match:
Boston College
U of Rochester
Brandeis (check arts)
Wake Forest
U of Miami
UW-Seattle

Low match/Safety:
Fordham (maybe a match…)
Syracuse
SUNYs
UMass-Amherst (would grant entry to 5 colleges)

If you are willing to consider small schools, a whole slew of LACs would be excellent: Vassar, Wesleyan, Barnard, Bates, BMC, Wellesley, Smith, Swat, Haverford, Davidson, U of Richmond, Reed…

Not in a big city but in a great college town that meets all your other criteria - Cornell.

Have you reached out to any of the coaches of the schools that you are interested in?
If your times are recruitable that might help you with Admissions to one of your reach schools.
Good luck

thanks for the feedback! I actually meant midwest US, not northwest like Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, etc… This is what happens when you type up a forum post at 2:00 am. Also I think I was confused by Northwestern which is in Illinois. I will definitely check out the schools you suggested!

definitely am looking into Cornell! thanks for the suggestion!

my times are only barely good enough for a division III varsity swim team, so right now that’s not a priority, especially because I don’t have a list of schools yet, but thanks for the advice! I will look into it, once I’ve narrowed down a list!

thanks for the school recommendations and links! I’m definitely going to look into those schools you suggested!

JUST TO BE CLEAR: I meant Midwest US (Michigan, Illinois, Missouri, Wisconsin, etc.), not the Pacific Northwest (Washington, Oregon, etc)

I think that you would get more mileage out of majoring in economics than sociology. It’s like the most valuable vs the least valuable majors.

What you wrote screams Wellesley to me. It has the prestige. It has the quality. It has access to MIT and Boston. Your admissions odds are always higher at women’s college than for a coed liberal arts college of equal prestige just by virtue of them eliminating half the population up front. Wellesley has always had a great economics department though Karl “Chip” Case and Marshall Goldman have passed on. The tradition is still there.

I agree that economics would be more realistic and useful, but I’ve never actually learned economics besides watching educational youtube videos on economic related topics, so I’m not 100% sure that’s what I want to major in. I’ll find out for sure once I start taking my ap econ classes, but for now I’m still leaving my options for majors open.
I admit I’m a little “iffy” about considering an all women’s college, but I will check out Welleley’s economics department!

You should visit Wellesley and see what you think. It is a really energizing place, beautiful campus, lots of very smart women there.

Smith would be a good test case as far as whether D3 swim will be a hook for you. It’s lower-ranked in D3 than Wellesley. http://www.smithpioneers.com/sb_output.aspx?form=96 Every school will have inquiry forms like this - it doesn’t hurt to fill them out and see.

Smith seems as if it has more specific graphic design stuff in their art department than Wellesley, which seems more on the “fine art” end of things… but both are definitely worth looking at.

Congrats OP. That’s a great set of accomplishments. Don’t lose your drive down the home stretch. Mid year reports will be very important for you for any deferred ea schools and rd.

I really like @prezbucky ‘s list. I would suggest that the profile you presented would place u Miami as low match in his listing methodology and move Fordham up a notch as well.

Wake Forest and Boston College would be high-er match category more similar to the uva and unc grouping. Tufts slightly higher but below gtown and cmu recently.

But this is only my estimation.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see you accepted at all of your matches /low and match. If you ea at some of the higher matches and low reach you probably will see some success in this group as well. Especially if you ea. Even if deferred, you have a reasonable chance.

The Ivy League is different. You have the profile that is clearly strong enough but unless you have some advantage not described you are in the toughest pool. Just so many excellent applications and too few seats. This goes for all of the schools listed.

And remember when you say your parents can pay for school it is 72,000 to 80,000 after tax dollars per year with books and incidentals including sports packages and supplemental cash for coffe shops dinner with friends etc. With 35k to 40k due before August next year.

Best of luck and keep up the great work.

thanks so much for your input and your confidence in me! your advice is really useful! And of course I’ll take any financial aid that I can get, but I am so lucky that I have parents who value higher education and have been saving and calculating costs so I can pursue a degree with less worry about financial burdens. That’s what I meant when I said my parents can pay.

Just make sure there’s no sticker shock. When you think in terms of 40 or 50k per year. Its one thing

75k can weaken many knees. It’s real shocker.

You can only borrow something like 6500 per year as a first year.

I think that your stats would make you merit eligible at a lot of the private schools mentioned like Miami and Fordham. You can also look at a school like u Alabama that’s getting popular in the east coast for their merit programs. I don’t know anything about them other than that and they have a rally nice college experience from what I’ve been told by these students and parents.

Well in the Midwest there are:

Reach:
UChicago
Northwestern

Low reach:
Michigan (maybe a high match)
Notre Dame (ditto)
Washington U

Match:
UW-Madison
U of Illinois (known mostly for STEM but strong overall)

Low match:
U of Minnesota
Indiana U
U of Iowa (top creative writing in the country)

If considering LACs (in rough order of selectivity):
Carleton
Grinnell
Oberlin
Kenyon
Macalester
Dickinson
Denison (I forget if D&D are in OH or PA)
St. Olaf
DePauw
Wooster
Wheaton
Earlham
Lawrence (has its own conservatory…)
Beloit

There are more but in those listed, you have enough reading to keep you occupied for a while. :slight_smile: