Student Directed Musicals...

<p>Although this doesn't directly apply to college, I thought you "theater-minded" people out there might be able to help me...</p>

<p>My school just recently started a "student-directed and produced" show where students are completely involved in the process of staging and organizing a musical. Our first year was a very successful "You're a Good Man Charlie Brown" and this year we just completed "SMILE." Both were very well-run and worked very well with our school.</p>

<p>Next year is my senior year where I will have the opportunity to direct the show. I'm trying to get ideas for next year, but I can't think of anything really good. I need your help. We have a decent stage (lighting, travelers, sound capabilities... no flies or trap doors or anything of that nature, decent room for nice, maybe even two-leveled scenery), not extremely low budget but sufficient. Our talent is.... interesting -- we have maybe 3 boys who can actually sing and act - tons of girls with varied talent. That's our biggest problem. Basically, we need a show that's easy to do, not many guy parts, easy music for a small pit-band etc. It should also appeal to many different age groups -- nothing too risky if you know what I mean.</p>

<p>Thanks for your help.</p>

<p>I would have suggested Little Shop of Horrors but not sure if you could get the whole plant thing together or not but given the gender make up, this one would work.
Other suggestions: Evita, Songs for a New World, Secret Garden, Bye Bye Birdie, Pippin, The Wiz, Nine.</p>

<p>I picked these based on your gender make up and on ease of staging (other than Little Shop which present some extra stuff in that regard).</p>

<p>Good ideas, but one red flag: MattyB specified "easy music" for the pit, and "Songs for a New World" is wickedly difficult music (as is virtually everything by Jason Robert Brown). Almost all the songs are also very challenging vocally, and some call for a lot of dance. I hate to suggest that you scratch it off your list, because I'm crazy about it, but it's a tough show. My D was in a production of it at her school this year, but they really did have the cast and pit to pull it off beautifully. Not all schools do -- at one of her college auditions, a boy told her that his school had to cut a couple of numbers from SFANW because they didn't have the vocal or dance talent...and he was from a performing arts HS!</p>

<p>artsymom, thanks for explaining that about Songs for a New World. I saw a professional production here and they did not have ANY dance in it! So, that made me think of it as fairly easy to stage (this show had no scenery). My D loves the music and I did not realize it was that challenging for instrumentalists. I know she has played songs on piano from it, while singing at the same time. In a student directed cabaret she has put on for two years, she also included songs from this show, and their band was made up of students. So, I am glad you are giving a heads up as I did not realize the point you are making about this show.</p>

<p>Susan</p>

<p>Why don't you do what SoozieVT's daughter did and put together a cabaret style show? This would allow you to access the talent you have and go from there. </p>

<p>Or, there is a great lil show called I Love You You're Perfect Now Change that seems like it would be a pretty simple show to put on. The music is not incredibly challenging to my knowledge, and staging and dance could be as little or as much as you want. It is a bunch of little scenes and songs strung together with the common theme, "Relationships" as what ties it all together. It is a small cast. :) It may work well for what you are doing.</p>

<p>MTI includes a "show selector" on its website which helps you to define musicals which fit your limitations. The link is : <a href="http://www.mtishows.com/selector_1.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mtishows.com/selector_1.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The other major licensing agents (Samuel French, Rodgers and Hammerstein, and Tams-Witmark) don't all have this same sort of search engine, but most do provide a breakdown of cast #s and voice types, as well as a difficulty "rating".</p>

<p>Don't overlook the smaller licensing agents...Dramatic Publishing and Dramatists also carry musicals, which while not as well known, do include some surprising gems. My daughter was recently in a Dramatic musical called "Soup du Jour", and it was very well-received (even though no one had ever heard of it!)</p>

<p>Does your budget include a separate line item for rights/royalties? This is generally the most expensive part of any show and can often be a(n unpleasant) surprise if you've never directed a show before. Or does your school cover the rights and allow you to have your own working budget?</p>

<p>Matt- Allie and I are dying to do a student-directed version of Blood Brothers. It's NOT dance heavy, there need to be 2 REALLY strong male actors who sing, and 3 females who are very strong actresses. It's a really powerful show that hits home for teenagers especially. I suggest looking into it. Miss ya!!</p>

<p>Mezzomom, believe it or not, I have heard of Soup du Jour. Our local community theater did it in recent years!</p>

<p>And another advantage to writing your own musical cabaret revue is that you do not have to get the script rights. Many people can be featured and in fact, according to their specific individual strengths. My daughter has created/directed two of these the past two winters and then this summer is going to do one again but for youth (mostly middle school aged kids).<br>
Susan</p>

<p>That's funny you said that because I was thinking of a cabret style show...</p>

<p>Anyone in the tri-state area ever hear of "Applause Theatrical Workshops" - I heard about it through SDM and I did it one year. Our theme was "College Daze" and every little scene and song had to do with college (how ironic, collegeconfidential?!).... It was a really fun show and everyone was able to share the spotlight. I was thinking of something like that, and while that sort of a show might appeal better to some and would be 10x easier to cast and to stage (plus scenery would be a breeze, maybe a bunch of chairs and "beds" with a backdrop who knows..), getting all the music together would be kinda difficult. Imagine trying to obtain music for 10 different intstruments from 20 different shows. That seems pretty hard.</p>

<p>Little Shop sounds like a good idea actually. Although it's not heavy ensemble (which my school tends to favor), there's always an opportunity to add solo parts and such. Our budget is not dismal, and we most certainly cannot purchase an electronic puppet, but how could we build one, from anyone's experiences with the show at a local, community, or school theater?</p>

<p>For Little Shop, it is a series of four puppets. I don' know how expensive it is to rent, but you can rent them from MTI - see the web - <a href="http://www.mtishows.com/FTP/AudreyII.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mtishows.com/FTP/AudreyII.pdf&lt;/a>. I also found this web site - but know nothing about it - <a href="http://www.geocities.com/angrypuppets/puppetshop/audrey2/home.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.geocities.com/angrypuppets/puppetshop/audrey2/home.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Matty, I just asked my daughter about this as she is in the next room practicing piano. First, I know she either owned a lot of the sheet music or she ordered various scores she did not own (out of her budget). As an aside, a student run musical had never been done at our school before she created one and there was NO budget. We laid out money for a few supplies like music and then they used ticket sales to reimburse and then gave ALL the money to charity. Ok, so back to the music. There were likely about 25 songs in the show. Once she created the show and its themes, she located and got all the music. She made every kid a libretto notebook. She also made every kid a CD of every song as she had recordings of them all. For the musicians.....she says obviously for the pianist, the vocal scores are written for piano. She said the drummer just listened a lot to the CD of the songs and was able to figure out all the drumming. The bassist was able to use the chords in the piano score. The guitarist (her dad, LOL) was able to use the chords in the piano score. The first year "band" for the show also had a trumpet player but this student is an award winning trumpet player and he was able to transpose all the music himself. I don't know which other instruments you have, but they kept their band for the cabaret pretty small....about six musicians. For the regular school musicals, there is an orchestra. She also got students to do lights and sound. For rehearsals, she either played piano herself or when she was in the numbers (she was a performer, not just director/musical director/producer/choreographer), they sometimes rehearsed along with the CDs. Then the first year, she had a student pianist who played at rehearsals (her sister's best friend but who has since graduated so this year she had to play piano herself at rehearsals) and she got her piano teacher (private) to come and play at some rehearsals near the end. This year, she paid a professional pianist (her piano teacher was away) to do some rehearsals and the shows and took those fees out of the ticket sales before giving the rest to charity. </p>

<p>A musical revue show can have solos, duets, small group numbers, and large group numbers. If I recall, didn't you say once that you had gone to SDM? Think of Our Time Cabaret...kinda like that. There is even a bit of a theme in OTC too. There is some choregraphy and the entire show is blocked. Having been in OTC for years (going on her 8th season this year), she had a sense of how such musical cabarets can be done. But the ones she wrote had themes and this year's even had a "story line" in a way to it. That is how music was selected but it was also selected with various cast members in mind. She chose music to cater to each person's strengths. If someone was a skilled dancer, then they might be featured that way. Unlike the regular school musical, I would say each cast member was a "star" of this show. Some are leads in the regular musical but a few were kids who might not otherwise ever have gotten to sing solo like they did in these cabarets. It was great to feature each person....they were all leads. </p>

<p>Both cabaret musicals were not only successful but very well received in the community. I would say it was highly entertaining...like a Broadway revue. Both of her shows centered on contemporary Broadway music (that is why I mentioned Jason Robert Brown in an earlier post). Not to mention, but they were able to contribute a sizeable amount of money to charity, which is also a great feeling. </p>

<p>I think Little Shop would be good for the kids you have (I actually think that show would be perfect for the kids next year at our high school after my D is graduating) but I realize the plant thing can be an issue but alas, someone gave you a resource for renting the plants and if you have a budget, maybe you can afford this. My D's cabaret cast also each sold ads for their program to get additional funds. NO adults helped in any capacity with the show (other than a pianist at the end) and I think it sounds like your group has been able to do this twice already and so you have a core of kids ready with experience. </p>

<p>So, go get 'em!
Susan</p>

<p>Susan - you are the best :-D</p>

<p>One quick question though, how did your D get involved in actually performing AND directing/producing the show? I mean, I am one of the only few guys interested in participating in theater in our high school, and by me taking myself out of the show and into the directing process, we'd lose a male member of the show and thus are limited by what shows we can do. I of course wouldn't mind being in a show, but I know my friends would start raising eyebrows if I were to place myself into my own show. How did she go about doing this in the most polite way possible without upsetting others in the show?</p>

<p>Matty, this was a NON issue. First of all, it was not a show with PARTS and casting per se. But second of all, like I mentioned previously, it is not like there is a student run musical normally in our school and not like she was chosen director or something of that sort. </p>

<p>Rather, she INITIATED this idea on her own. It was sorta like her "project" or something she really wanted to do. She did the first one last year in tenth grade and asked about a dozen kids if they wanted to be in her show. Almost everyone was older than her. She asked kids who basically are the ones interested in musicals/theater and who participate in this sort of stuff, can sing, etc. She wrote the entire show, organized every aspect of it and even wrote out a "contract" or agreement with everyone and set a schedule, etc. It is hard to explain in a post but she is a leader, I suppose, and someone with drive and creativity. None of the kids questioned it. Rather they were very psyched at the idea and flattered to be asked to be a part of it. She picked a time when the fall drama and fall sports would be ending and before the spring musical started rehearsing. She even chose songs with certain kids in mind based on their strengths. I think in retrospect, many commented on her selections as being very fitting for who performed them or were featured in them. I think kids just respected her. I don't know how to put it but she has the most experience or passion in this field of pretty much the school. First she wrote the show and when she held the first meeting, she shared her score and outline of the show and who would be singing what. She opened it up for discussion because she wanted to make sure if kids had requests or any changes/additions, she wanted it to be "theirs" but shockingly (to me), everyone liked the show the way she had written it and were happy with songs she picked for them. She wore many "hats"....creator, organizer/producer, director, musical director (taught all music, harmonies at piano), choreographer (did most of it but gave two other girls with dance backgrounds a chance to choregraph something too but I'd say she and one other girl had the most extensive dance background of anyone involved so again, kids respected that), and performer...plus she did the lighting design, publicity, program design (it was a huge undertaking, admittedly, on TOP of numerous hours of extracurriculars she does, plus academics of course, lol). She did not make herself the "star" of the show but rather featured everyone..again zeroing in on their particular strengths. While she was younger than everyone, she does not come across that way though I find it interesting to see 18 year old boys listening to some 15 year old girl! While she was the one "running" this entire endeavor, she really tried to approach everyone with everything as a group effort. When it came time to publicity and a parent who does PR wanted to get it on the radio and she saw the copy first, she insisted that her own name NOT be mentioned in any capacity but rather it be called a student run cabaret. On the program, she did not want to be listed as director and all the other hats. She wanted the show to belong to the kids. In the end, they all took ownership proudly of this endeavor ,particularly as it had never happened at school before. They were interviewed on local TV about it. Kids were really into it. She allowed the program just to list her many hats as "artistic coordinator" and while the cast gave her flowers on stage at the end, she really did not want any focus on herself because this was something she had done out of love of the process. Kids and community members felt like it was like nothing else done there before and some said it was the best show they had seen done at the school ( I don't know about THAT as our musicals are very good but people were saying that, maybe cause it was so different). In fact, doing Wizard of Oz for the school musical afterward, was a let down to many because the cabaret was way more sophisticated in the song selections and featured so more kids who otherwise would not have been as featured in the musical. I think for my D, she loved seeing her ideas come alive and helping others realize their own dreams and feelings of accomplishment. </p>

<p>So, this year, kids wanted her to do it again, though many in the cast had graduated last year. She created a new cabaret musical even more sophisticated than the first one (the show had more themes running through it I think). Nobody questioned her directing it again. In fact, had she not written and organized another show, it never would have happened. Unlike at your school, there was no "organization" in place. It was really her own idea/project, not sure how else to put it. Nobody was resenting or asking to do it differently. I think they liked her ideas plus she has an extensive knowledge of the musical theater repertoire that she was introducing others to who would not have known these songs. Kids were thanking her for the songs she had picked out FOR them. I know it might sound weird to say that but it is not like the kinds of kids you find at let's say, SDM, where each kid would want a big say in the songs and parts as they are all passionate about theater. The kids here just respected her leadership and knowledge and organization and teaching of the music (much of which she arranged herself....she is a pianist ) and seemed to like her choreography. It just was a nonissue that she was in it, as well as running it. I believe they wanted her in it. She tends to play lead roles in the musicals, and kids just know this is her lifelong passion and ambition. Our school is kinda small (600 kids). This year, there is only one other student besides her, going on to pursue a BFA in MT. In fact, that girl and she have created and organized a summer program for youth ages 9-14 where they will teach singing, acting and dance but a huge part of it will be directing them in a musical theater cabaret that my D and the other girl will write. Kids have signed up. My daughter secured a theater venue for free. I think families in the community knew who she was from shows here but also if they saw the cabarets, the kids (many from the middle school at her high school) are psyched that she is creating a cabaret musical for THEM now. She and the other girl are getting paid tuition fees for their program and earning money for those two weeks, equivalent to a full time summer job, to take to college for spending money. So, one thing has led to another with this kind of student run endeavor. </p>

<p>Overall, she did not "raise eyebrows" but to the contrary, students were THANKING her for giving THEM this opportunity. Kids were writing in their bios thanks to her for this experience which they never would have had if she had not initiated it and ran it. There just never was a question about her also performing in the show. Kids respected her voice and dance skills and wanted her in the show. That issue just never came up. It is not a competitive atmosphere. It is not like the school is full of theater "divas" but quite the opposite. So, maybe the idea of NOT upsetting others has something to either do with her being a leader/initiator/creator type person, or kids respecting her passion for musical theater, or simply that there was not competition or resentments but more joy in the process and appreciation that someone came up with it and was capable of pulling it off. I have no idea what will happen now that she is leaving. I'd love to see it happen again there and be carried on. It an ambitious undertaking which fell on the shoulders of one person who was involved in an adult production herself d uring the planning months, 50 miles from our house, on top of all the rest of the ECs. I find that kids were happy to have someone else do all the work. She liked to delegate responsibilities (ie, publicity, program) but sometimes found it was hard to rely on people and easier to do oneself, when they did not come through. </p>

<p>This week, she is reconvening her cabaret cast for an assignment she is doing for her History/English class which she is doing on Sondheim and Jonathan Larson....comparing them in a major research/analytic paper, etc. She is doing a 40 minute presentation where she is coupling songs from each composer around certain themes in their work and while she is performing many songs herself while accompanying herself on piano, she has asked the cabaret kids to perform several solos/duets/group numbers for her "project" for the class even though many are not in the course but she wanted more singers...she will be pianist but also sing with them. So, there was a sort of "bonding" with this cast who shared this similar interest, even though they are not all friends outside this endeavor. </p>

<p>I guess the only difference in your dilemma is if you do a scripted show and cast yourself as the lead or something. But if you do a musical cabaret revue, I can't see why kids would mind you being IN the show as long as you were no more featured than them. But I don't know if you have a committee or just what. If you do, I suppose that changes things because jobs are given out, etc. In her case, there was no organization or committee and it was more like one girl's "baby" that she wanted to birth. Perhaps that is why the dynamics that concern your project never arose in this endeavor. In your case, perhaps you can talk to the group about wanting to direct but concern that there are not enough boys for the show and what did the others think about that. Otherwise, you could simply choose to direct the student run musical next year and then be a performer in the regular musical or some other production....ya know, a turn at each of your "loves". It is not like this show will be your only chance to perform. </p>

<p>Susan</p>