sucks to be poor; discrepancy in need-met schools

<p>So what if JHU didn’t meet it? JHU doesn’t have to. Most schools do not meet need. Most kids have loans when they graduate. </p>

<p>You got a great aid package. Most people don’t. You should be celebrating, not complaining with an incredibly entitled attitude.</p>

<p>Attending JHU is still not out of the question, I’d only have to “put skin in the game”, more-so than I initially expected.</p>

<p>There is really no rational reason to do so when you have such a super alternative. I don’t know that that “skin” is…but if it’s loans, then you don’t want those if med school is likely a possibility.</p>

<p>If it’s working over the summer or similar, then do that ANYWAY, because there are likely going to be G’town expenses that your aid isn’t going to cover.</p>

<p>My nephew is at a full need very generous school. His roomie is low income and on full aid. Guess what, there are still things that this kid needs, but has no funding. So, don’t get yourself in a pickle where all your earnings/loans are going to cover some JHU amount.</p>

<p>Please believe us…going to JHU is not worth any debt or anything when you have G’town on the table.</p>

<p>^^^
This is why I posted here and why CC is the best.</p>

<p>I personally believe JHU undergrad doesn’t have anything Georgetown can’t offer (besides engineering…) and is not worth the financial juggling with Georgetown’s offer on the table.</p>

<p>When I said Hopkins is still not out of the picture, I really meant I’d have to be WOWED (med school guarantee? lol) by them from now until May 1.</p>

<p>And I know this thread is long, but I did mention G’town offering me $1,700 whilst taking summer courses there free of charge… (Hint, hint, mom2). Only sweetens their deal.</p>

<p>What else does one do over the summer other than work?</p>

<p>As an aside to sybie,
Very ironic but I am now at the same high school as the person who coined the term (you use frequently) “skin in the game”</p>

<p>After actually looking up the term, you are very right about this, everyone should have some “skin in the game” in college, keeps one motivated</p>

<p>Now if you only had his money</p>

<p>We can all dream and wish…unless…you’re…no, you can’t be…Gates??</p>

<p>If you had more money they would just give you less financial aid. It’s not like middle income people just go to places that don’t meet need, like JHU, without debt. Sometimes massive amounts of it.</p>

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<p>This comment shows much naivety from leah (obviously no negative connotation here), you have much time to learn from now until college.</p>

<p>I think people like me should be the poster child for a college education, it’s not a scam like “people” say it is. Everyone has a choice, no one forced upon mountains of debt to attend college X and smoke pot and drink all day. Then come out and expect 75k+ jobs majoring in psychology?</p>

<p>The reference to money was an “inside joke”; I’ll leave informing you to someone else.</p>

<p>^I’m sorry, which part do you disagree with? Do middle income families not get less financial aid? Would a student that goes to an institution such as JHU that does not meet their need magically graduate without debt?</p>

<p>I promise you that I am not naive. My family is unable to pay my EFC. Therefore, I most likely will not be able to attend an institution such as Georgetown. I will be going to somewhere that gives me a large scholarship, such as the university of Alabama or the university of Pittsburgh. Do I want to go there after working incredibly hard in high school? No. But that is my only choice. Yes, there are opportunities for everyone. But there are not opportunities for everyone to attend private colleges. Be thankful for what you have instead of whining about what you do not. </p>

<p>Your comments about smoking, drinking, and majority in psychology are immature. Are you implying that everyone who graduates with debt is lazy?They’re not. You definitely should not be the poster child for college education. It is important for students like me to understand that in most circumstances, college is not just taken care of, and it is the responsibility of the student to find institutions that they can afford. It is very rare for an offer such as yours to fall in the majority of students’ laps. </p>

<p>Meanwhile, you just received an almost full ride from Georgetown, a peer institution of JHU, and you are complaining. JHU does not meet need. You are displaying a naive misunderstanding of the financial aid system by expecting them to.</p>

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<p>What ?</p>

<p>^Exactly what I thought…</p>

<p>To eyes: Type in google “college is” and let it autocomplete
First result: college is a scam
The rich may be getting richer, but the poor are not forced to live in poverty</p>

<p>And to leah, I’m not even going to point out the NUMEROUS flaws in your post, but the main ones:

  1. I never disagreed with anything you previously said.
  2. JHU meets 99.8% of need. They met my need.
  3. I’ve never whined about anything on this thread.
  4. I think it’s great that you are being responsible for college finances, unfortunately, many Americans are not. I was only posing a hypothetical stereotypical immature recent college graduate.
  5. Since your post has a harassing tone, please read the entire thread before jumping to conclusions.</p>

<p>You have not experienced senior year yet. I am sure you will be able to find a school that suits you well academically, socially, and most of all, financially. Again, naive, as I used it, did not have a negative connotation.</p>

<p>OP, why didn’t you apply for the GMS? (You post on that thread, and your sister was a GMS recipient.) </p>

<p>You’d written at one point that your parents told you they would contribute $6,000-$7,000 towards college. That and some work on your part could make JHU doable, yes? </p>

<p>If your parents’ AGI is $60,000 and your sister is a GMS (and I assume dental school is also being paid for?), your brother got a full-ride from American U and now G’town is givin giving you a full-ride, I think your family is very lucky, indeed. Someone ELSE is paying for ALL of your families’ higher education! (I think there should have been some “skin in the game” for your family.)</p>

<p>Hey CTTC,
Seems like you’ve changed your tone quite a bit from the previous post. (positive connotation)
GMS would only meet need, so essentially, it would be useful towards merit-based schools and/or public schools that does not meet full need for OOS students. (to my understanding)</p>

<p>My sister still had to take out loans for about 5k per year and parents still had to contribute about 3k towards Bryn Mawr, even with the GMS factored in. GMS only gave about 3k per year…</p>

<p>And she’s taking out 75k in loans per year now…
No money for professional school.</p>

<p>The fact of the matter is, yes, if I were naive (or irresponsible) enough to decline G’town’s offer, I can theoretically still attend JHU. But why should I? Even if JHU had matched G’town’s offer, I would be only 80-20 favoring Hopkins. </p>

<p>If Georgetown had given significantly less aid, less than Hopkins, my parents said I could have gone to Hopkins. JHU calculated our EFC to be 8k for a reason; if they determined that our family can pay 8k, given our situation, then we should be able to do so.</p>

<p>Lake,
It seems to me that you are responsible enough to realize a good financial aid package when you see it. Georgetown is a fine school. Make the right decision.</p>