<p>Note to above:
I am pretty certain Ms. Fleming did not graduate from Julliard. Her undergrad degree (music ed!) is from SUNY Potsdam, Crane School of Music and Masters from Eastman. As I recall from her autobiography, she then went to an opera training program at Julliard, but I don't believe it resulted in a DMA.</p>
<p>The listing of well known graduates from schools can be very misleading without more specificity. For example, Dolora Zajick got her BM and MM from the University of Nevada. Her teacher from there moved to MSM so she studied with him there when she came to NY. Elizabeth Futral got her bachelor's degree in music from Samford and her MM from IU. Heidi Grant Murphy did her undergrad work at Western Washington University. Lawrence Brownlee did his undergrad work at Anderson University. Wayne Tiggs got his BM from Iowa State University. Denyce Graves did her undergrad work at Oberlin and got a diploma from NEC so she too can serve as a success story for more than one school. </p>
<p>What this list says to me is that a singer can reach his or her goals from a variety of schools too numerous to mention. A look at the list of Metropolitan Opera competition winners over the last vew years reveals students who studied at well known schools, but the majority of them studied at schools not on anyone's top 10 list.</p>
<p>cvonhaps---USC is NOT in Pasadena Ca. Not even close. And those US News
rankings are pretty dated.</p>
<p>Houghton College provides a great education and has an amazing music program. The Greatbatch School of Music is tops!</p>
<p>Faculty information:
Faculty</a>, by Area : Greatbatch School of Music</p>
<p>College Website:
Houghton</a> College: A Christian College with a Higher Purpose in Mind</p>
<p>Does anyone have any experience with the strings department at BU? S, now finishing his junior year, visited last summer, but the place was pretty empty. I guess everyone was in Western Mass. We were told to come for a tour but our guide was a wind grad student and knew virtually nothing about undergrad application issues and only a secretary was there in the admissions office. We got a feeling that it was not a very supportive atmosphere and extremely competitive to get in. This was the first school that we visited and now, a year later and after much research, feel that we should get some other opinions about the BU Music program. S would love to be in Boston but does not want to go the conservatory route. Thanks for any feedback and info.</p>
<p>I'm not familiar with any but NY schools, but here are my suggestions:</p>
<p>Ithaca College
SUNY Postdam
SUNY Fredonia
SUNY Oswego
Nazareth
University of Rochester</p>
<ul>
<li>SUNY Oswego Voice Major, class of 2003</li>
</ul>
<p>slovesviola- I believe the poster by the name of fiddlefrog is an upperclass violin student at BU. If you don't get a response on the thread, try emailing or pm'ing.</p>
<p>im just generally replying..
to achieve the double major, the student must both get into the conservatory as well as the other school involved, which is why a great music program at a university is probably a safer bet.
juilliard/columbia/barnard--barely anyone makes it out alive
jhu/peabody-wonderful program
rice university-shepherd-you take classes at rice for distribution purposes, and rice is an incredible university, ranked among the best.
nec/tufts/harvard-difficult to manage, similar to the juilliard dilema
eastman and urochester-works well.</p>
<p>Is is safe however to just rely on voice or your instrument? or should you have a back up plan and go with the double major? thats my question.</p>
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U Washington has a pretty good program
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<p>No, it doesn't. Both Central Washington U and Western Washington U have much better music programs. UW is kind of a joke among my music major friends. Their marching band is kinda cool, but that's about it. And I'm saying this as someone who ALWAYS wanted to go to UW - until I decided I wanted to do music.</p>
<p>As general info, there is an article by Midori titled "Paths to Glory" in the September '08 issue of Strad outlining some alternative career choices for musicians. Offers a broad range of options, including administrative, legal, professional services geared to musicians/performing artists. It goes a step beyond the norm in offering potential options for those with the Muse.</p>
<p>The link to Strad is here The</a> Strad. In the past, articles were accessible online (but required free registration for access).</p>
<p>Worth a read for those beginning to look, especially those thinking double majors, as well as students/parents already on "the path".</p>
<p>Hello everybody!</p>
<p>I am from Spain and I am currently looking for a place to do my graduate studies in the US. </p>
<p>My questions are:
1. How many applications should I do?
2. Where? I thought about:
- Indiana University
- Manhattan School of Music
- Juilliard
- Curtis Intitute
- Mannes College of Music
- Eastman School of Music
- And many more...
3. Does anyone know about the best teachers in these schools?
4. How does people do when they make a lot of applications and then they have to do the auditions! One in Indiana, the next day in NY, then to California... How is it possible?</p>
<p>I have been thinking about my studies for a really looooong time, and I'm beginning to be tired of it. So much thinking, pffff!</p>
<p>I hope somebody can help me! Thank you!</p>
<p>Hello,</p>
<p>From your screen name is looks like you are a soprano. The schools you listed by name are some of the top music schools in the country. Sopranos are the most common voice type, so you may want to diversify your list some.</p>
<p>Also -- many music schools will require a pre-screening CD (particularly for sopranos.... but at the graduate level often for all voice types). The good news is that you will not have to travel to a school to audition where you have not already been pre-screened and invited to audition. </p>
<p>In terms of scheduling auditions I would suggest that once you know where you will be auditioning that you schedule them in a way that will allow you to be as unstressed as possible... ie. not an audition in Indiana one daye and audition in NY the next.</p>
<p>Some schools may do auditions in cities... for example.... Indiana may do an audition in NYC. This information will be on their website. </p>
<p>In terms of determining schools, it will be helpful to identify your post graduate school goals. Also what do you know about the teachers at a specific school, what the graduated are pursuing post school.</p>
<p>It seems to me that in graduate training it is very much about your teacher. Look at Met winners over the past 5 - 10 years, who dis they study with, where are those teachers now? </p>
<p>As far as other schools to look at... there are many schools that may not be as well known as those above (Although in the states I would think that many of them are), and have very strong reputations (in no particular order of reputation or selectivity).... University of Maryland, Rice, UNC- Greensboro, Florida State, Boston University, Boston Conservatory, NYU, New England Conservatory, and many more.</p>
<p>Do you have a teacher in Spain who can help guide you?</p>
<p>Sopranostress, welcome. There's an abundance of audition info, thoughts, and planning info here <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/240407-audition-tips-info.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/240407-audition-tips-info.html</a></p>
<p>I would suggest you email a moderator from the link at the bottom of the page and request that they move your post into a seperate thread. </p>
<p>It is more likely to receive more notice and response that way.</p>
<p>KatMT's advice is sound, and there are others here as well much more knowledgeable in vocal programs than I. If you use the "search this forum" feature, you can isolate the vocal threads.</p>
<p>Thank you so so much! I've been looking everywhere, every post, talked to so many people. And you know what? I think in the end it's just too much information. Thank you, i'll do what you (katMT and violalad) say!</p>
<p>does anyone have any info on northwestern's music composition program? I'm a junior who has started to become interested in music composition, and I'd like to know what the program is like and where it ranks compared to other schools? Oh, and thanks a million, these forums rock!</p>
<p>I saw mention of Westminster Choral College at Ryder and I am looking for any feedback on this program. My concern is that I have known two graduates who made it through without learning keyboard. They both teach at high school and are unable to do accompaniment for the concert, granted, it has been a few years. It has been highly recommended from other New Jerseyians as THE Voice Performance College. My daughter is looking for Individualized Voice Performance, not choral, she is a Soprano 1, LOL...like the rest of the auditioning world!!!!!She would prefer a BM because she is torn between the conservatory mode and the college setting. She is artistically gifted and has a good but not great academic record. 3.25 GPA unweighted and 4.0weighted. Her voulunteer work, employment record and extra curicular are strong....captain of lacrosse, field hockey teams etc. Her SAT's are 1750. She is applying to both Conservatories and colleges. Money is a great concern since she will be the third in college...at the SAME time!!! My daughter is looking at BOCO, Cincinnati, Eastman, Longy, Shenandoah, James Madison, Oberlin, Furman and Purchase. She is seeking a safety and is considering between Mont Clair, Rutgers or Wesminster. Her big concern with Mont Clair is that she said she will see TOO many of her high school buds and she wants to move on in life and branch out!!! Ten, I know, is A LOT but my son who had really STRONG academics applied to 8 and was only accepted into 3!!! Performance majors are EXTREMELY competitive!! Any feedback is greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Lady Mac, Welcome. I have no experience in vocal programs, but here are links to previous Westminster threads:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/445166-westminster-choir-college.html?highlight=westminster%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/445166-westminster-choir-college.html?highlight=westminster</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/193112-westminster-choir-college.html?highlight=westminster%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/193112-westminster-choir-college.html?highlight=westminster</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/161669-so-what-about-westminster.html?highlight=westminster%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/161669-so-what-about-westminster.html?highlight=westminster</a></p>
<p>These obtained were by using the search this forum feature, advanced, "westminster", thread titles only. There are some posts within other vocal threads addressing westminster. Change the search parameters to "search posts" rather than titles, and you'll get those as well.</p>
<p>The poster ray198 has a daughter who is a freshman, vocal performance major at Westminster. cartera45 daughter also had a vocal performance admit this past year at WCC, but is attending another institution. Try searching for posts by those user names. You can also try direct contact through cc's private message feature.</p>
<p>All WCC students are required to pass a piano proficiency test. See Westminster</a> College of the Arts - Rider University - Piano</p>
<p>Yes, my D was accepted at WCC. She really liked the teacher with whom she had a sample lesson and the kids there were incredibly nice and helpful. She loved Princeton - as did I. I would have loved to have visited her there. She was a little concerned about the intense choral work there. We didn't feel that it interferes at all with the quality of the vocal instruction, however. The facilities were a negative. In the end, she decided she wanted a more traditional campus and university experience, rather than a conservatory. She felt that she could go the conservatory for graduate school. We never heard any complaints about the keyboard instruction.</p>
<p>Some of the changes are: a substantial fee for lessons at Juilliard; admission into a BA/MM program is by audition in the junior year at Columbia. The program is now more similar to Yale's BA/MM program than Harvards, which accepts students to the Harvard-NEC program at the Freshman level; the added fee for the NEC portion is more in the $6,000 range.
Here are some excerpts from the website:
"A limited number of current or prospective Barnard and Columbia students may have the opportunity to pursue private music lessons at Juilliard. Successful applicants to the Barnard-Columbia-Juilliard Exchange are full-time registered students at Barnard or Columbia, have weekly lessons with a member of the Juilliard faculty, and take annual juries, which determine eligibility to continue in the program. It is important to note that the Exchange does not include participation in Juilliard ensembles or classes."</p>
<p>"It is anticipated that beginning in the 2009-2010 academic year, participants in the Barnard-Columbia-Juilliard Exchange must pay, in addition to Barnard or Columbia tuition, $4,750/year for the cost of lessons at Juilliard."</p>
<p>"Students who have been admitted to and participate in the Exchange while attending Barnard or Columbia do not receive a double (or dual) undergraduate degree. However, they do have the opportunity of auditioning for the Juilliard Master of Music degree program during their junior year at Barnard or Columbia. Exchange students must apply for the Master of Music by the December 1 deadline, and pay the $100 application fee. The pre-screening (if applicable) is waived. The applicant should complete most liberal arts requirements at Barnard or Columbia within three years, while taking major lessons at Juilliard. In the spring of the junior year, the applicant will audition at Juilliard for entrance to the Master of Music program. If admitted, the student will normally spend two subsequent years (three for Voice majors) primarily at Juilliard, while finishing any remaining undergraduate requirements at Barnard or Columbia."</p>