Suicide rate in Cornell

<p>Momma-three, Campuscsi wrote in another thread that he was on his “2nd academic leave from cornell.”</p>

<p>In my opinion Camp’s last post was the first one I’ve seen of his that I somewhat agreed with-- at least it’s constructive. While most students are not, as a rule, unduly “emotionally depressed,” it is still very important to make help available to those who find themselves in that unfortunate situation. Readers of Uncle Ezra’s column will know that these recommendations have always been out there for students who find themselves in a distressing predicament. And now Dr. Skorton, along with Cornell’s administration and health professionals, have made yet more counseling hours available. Regarding Camp’s recommendation to promote medical leaves of absence for the small fraction of students who are perilously distraught, he makes a good point. While this has already been an option, perhaps the recourse could be made more widely known.</p>

<p>Campuscsi… If you are on a leave from Cornell than you have a perspective that is valuable to many. I hope you will consider discussing your viewpoint with Dr. Skortons office. Your experience could prove to be invaluable right now when they are working on ways to reach out to students.</p>

<p>thanks for the kind words colm! lol. </p>

<p>for many psychology is a new thing as they’ve never been to a psychologist either because of family/cultural stigma, individual choice, or lack of health insurance. </p>

<p>it could very well be that family/cultural stigma, individual choice continue to play a role in having students avoid health care.</p>

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<p>Just commenting to each post (that I feel compelled to respond to) from my one small perspective. Please keep up the more positively oriented, factually verifiable, and logically coherent comments! I wish you well with your endeavors and current challenges. You certainly don’t seem to lack for a certain stick-to-itiveness. :)</p>

<p>By the way, aren’t all students at Cornell required to have health insurance?</p>

<p>Not if the waiver is signed. Unfortunatly, students find out too late that their coverage from home does not cover many things when they are away at school. </p>

<p>Kids on financial aid— should talk to the fin aid office to discuss if health insurance cost could be worked into the package.</p>

<p>campuscsi— Please accept my apology. I really thought you were a rejected student just bad mouthing Cornell.</p>

<p>The following quote is from Cornell’s Gannett Health Services website:

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<p>So, if it actually is possible to have this requirement waived, it seems to be a kind of loophole, or perhaps that certain students manage to “get away with” not carrying it.</p>

<p>Yes they get it waived by simply stating they are covered by their own insurance.</p>

<p>Not simply stating, IIRC, you have to provide details (eg plan name,policy #). They check that the plan meets their criteria (local providers, etc) before they grant the waiver. I think.</p>

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<p>Okay, but in order for that insurance to be in Cornell’s good graces their coverage needs to meet a substantial list of criteria, one of which includes that inpatient mental health care in Ithaca be provided. So, all students are required to be covered.</p>

<p>You are right Monydad.</p>

<p>Monydad—Trust me they don’t, and we learned the hard way.</p>

<p>ok well at least the student has to submit policy #, etc and then certify, either actually or by the very fact of submission, that the subject policy is in effect and meets their stated requirements. So the only way a student would "“get away with it” would be by, in effect, lying to Cornell. Assuming Cornell does not check anything.</p>

<p>I remember I had to call my insurance company to find out if our coverage met all these criteria, talking to those people is never a pleasure.</p>

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<p>We had this exact same experience.</p>

<p>Not pleasant at all. However what we learned was that doctors in the area were not covered. If your student needs to see a doctor in the area they are not covered. We did’nt have any problems with Gannet just the off campus specialist.</p>

<p>Again, from the Gannett list of requirements for private insurance coverage to be acceptable:</p>

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<p>If you were told by your insurance company that they did actually provide the above, and subsequently they didn’t, then you have a legitimate legal grievance with your insurers.</p>

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<p>Funny. My grandparents never seem to have trouble talking with their insurers (Medicare). Shame we couldn’t just get everybody on the same plan.</p>

<p>This was our experience with insurance as well. Or perhaps it was just us being proactive. But when we received the insurance requirements, my D and I read them together so we had a complete understanding of what was required and what the costs were.</p>

<p>We then called our carrier, BCBS and verified that we met all the requirements.</p>

<p>Then we weighed which was the least expensive of the two options and chose to stick with our own carrier. The only downside was that the pharmacy at Gannett is not on the list of approved pharmacies with our carrier, so my daughter has to travel to a cvs or target to get them filled.</p>

<p>Seems to me, you would really have to go out of your way to try and subvert the system in order to end up without proper coverage.</p>

<p>lol @ single payer advocate :D</p>

<p>cayuga what are your thoughts on importing health care providers for preventive care general practitioners?</p>

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<p>Two points:</p>

<p>1) It’s pretty clear that there needs to be more GPs and less specialists. The Affordable Care Act is moving in the right direction by increasing reimbursement rates for GPs. GPs can have a conversation with you and think about your whole health; specialists will only look for what is wrong within their narrowly-defined worldview (and bill you more for it).</p>

<p>2) The medical profession has suffered (or should I say benefited?) from under-supply for quite some time. If U.S. Med Schools aren’t going to train more doctors (and they are starting to, thankfully) the doctors need to come from somewhere.</p>

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<p>That is funny, I actually laughed, but you do realize that you are playing with some fire that has a potential for some nasty turbulence, right? You are braver than – and funnier than – me!</p>

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This may not be pretty.</p>

<p>My elderly dad is at the doctor on average twice a week. Medicare has really served him well. I however am not too sure how happy we will be once the new health care starts putting restrictions on what we could or can’t have done.</p>