<p>Blossom - </p>
<p>The situation with my son happened two years ago (Fall 2005) at the beginning of his senior year and is past history at this point. I was just relating it now as it is relevant to the OP's questions.</p>
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My son's situation got very complicated and it wouldn't be appropriate for me to publicly post all of the details. I will be glad to discuss it by PM, if you wish.
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<p>I can only imagine. It's a shame that he had to go through all that. </p>
<p>If things get "complicated" for my S, I suspect he'll simply reject the offer as some others said their students did in similar cases. I don't think he'll put up with unreasonable pressure from a prospective employer, not when there are plenty of other opportunities.</p>
<p>Hope things turned out well for your son.</p>
<p>Bringing this thread back with an update. DS #1 was able to get an extension on the first job offer post-internship (well, they didn't get back to him with more information when they were supposed to, so how could he make a decision??). Anyway, he attended a job fair on campus last Thurs-Fri, and had been followed for a long time by a recruiter from a competitor of the company he interned with, and they made him a verbal offer today!(hard copy to be delivered in the morning via overnight mail--- from down the street :) ) that is more interesting sounding to DS #1 than the offer he is sitting on. Of course there is the 2-3 week squeeze play thing, but they are offering to fly him to the location next week to meet with the people and see if he likes it. Mom here has mixed feelings about it's location (New Orleans), but DS#2 is showing more interest in Tulane-- wouldn't that be weird to have both boys in New Orleans next year? Hmmmm. Gotta think about that one.</p>
<p>Strick- what did your son do??</p>
<p>jym626--my son is in the exact same position as yours and it seems to be playing out similarly.</p>
<p>I didn't know exploding offers were agains NACE rules. Very interesting.</p>
<p>More news as it happens....</p>
<p>motherofTwo--different colleges seem to interpret the rules differently. What the NACE web site actually says is this:</p>
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The NACE Principles for Professional Conduct Committee understands that not all employers recruit at the same time of the year, nor do all colleges follow the same academic calendar. Therefore, recommending specific calendar dates for offers and acceptances would not be appropriate. Furthermore, many employers issue offers to their graduating co-ops or interns at the start of the employer’s recruiting cycle, in order to provide those students priority consideration prior to extending offers to other students. Finally, shorter decision time frames would be appropriate if the candidate's graduation date and start date are very close.</p>
<p>If offers are extended early in the campus recruiting cycle, the Committee recommends that employers (1) provide students a minimum of three weeks to decide and not require decisions earlier than six months prior to the candidates graduation; and (2) provide students the opportunity to request deadline extensions to allow a reasonable period for investigation of other recruiting opportunities for comparison. However, we recognize that the definitions of "sufficient time" and "a reasonable period" will vary, given industry standards, a student's prior experience with the employer, offer timing, and proximity to graduation date/start time.
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<p>They do frown on signing bonuses coupled with very short deadlines, but the job-offer-to-summer-intern deal seems to be accepted. Both sides know what they are getting, at least.</p>
<p>Since this came back to the top, a quick update. After talking to his career counselor, my S's probably going to take the job. He was advised to negotiate for a slightly higher salary if the company will talk, but it's not deal breaker. School policy is against companies setting deadlines prior to November 1st, but the counselor admits it's not enforced and it's not practical to do much recruiting by then anyway.</p>
<p>The biggest factor in favor of this job seems to be where the job is located. The other companies my S would consider working for don't have locations any where as near to his family. Oh, and this semester's course work is pretty serious. He's clearly happy to not have to go through recruiting this Fall.</p>
<p>I guess NACE provides recommendations rather than rules, but an October deadline for someone graduating near the end of June is certainly in conflict with recommendation #1 above. It is also definitely against the rules at Stanford, the college my son attended (see quote in Post #16) above. </p>
<p>In any case, this whole game seems to be very stressful on the students. The timing issues and need to make a decision before all possibilities are explored are very different than the situation when applying to college, when all colleges have a common decision deadline of May 1 and the students can wait until all acceptances and rejected are received before making their choice.</p>
<p>Well, I have to admit that the parents' stress over this is probably not that relevant. By this point our children need to be making their own choices.</p>
<p>I guess I'll just have to learn to think of it as a non-binding form of early decision. ;)</p>
<p>I agree that by this point, the parents' role is to provide advice to the young adults involved if and when asked . However, it does seem confusing that there are stated rules and recommendations which are not followed. Why have these recommendations if even the career center says that they are basically ignored.</p>