Summer Science Program (SSP) 2015

@Southpaw45‌ and @araethusa‌ Thanks so much for detailed answers! Both of you certainly shed some important light as to the makeup of the kids they accept. Makes me want to get in even more!

@kkpanu9 Since they only accept about 1 sophomore each year out of about 750 candidates, I would say you have to be a fairly extraordinary applicant to get in. FWIW, I applied last year as a sophomore and took most of the classes you listed as a freshman (and even more as a sophomore) and I was rejected. I had also done a fair amount of both physics and math research for which I won some awards. Although I would love to be accepted this year, since there are only about 30-32 spots available for domestic males, I am being realistic and have lined up a research internship for summer. It is not quite as competitive as RSI (3% vs. 10%) but certainly super hard to get into.

@Multiverse7‌
ok. So incase I don’t get into SSP, are there any other program I should apply to? I really want to do something math and science related. I am trying to get an internship at my local college, but it isn’t going too well.

@kkpanu9‌ Aww sorry, I just reread my post and I didn’t mean to sound so discouraging. Hopefully, you’ll get in because there’s so many other factors that go into the decision other than just coursework (essays, EC’s, recs, scores, etc).

Unfortunately, there aren’t many programs for sophomores. I posted this thread for one I attended http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/summer-programs/1734550-awesome-summer-research-program-for-rising-juniors-and-senior-ucsb-rmp.html#latest . It costs money though (but you can see about merit or need-based scholarships).

Good Luck!

@Multiverse7 and @kkpanu9: Actually, there were 3 sophomores at the CA campus and 1 at the NM campus this year. Take that as you will…

is sending in a resume/supplement recommended? i’m kinda debating on whether to send one or not because i only have one internship (non physics related) and a couple of small math awards, but most of the big stuff i’ve done is humanities-geared…

@pendragonstone I would send that resume. Even I had one research which was published, one major math competition and one major compsci competition. Rest of the things on my app were minor awards and other achievements in the sic/math. You should briefly describe the internship in the supplementary if you haven’t already in any one of your essays and also mention the math awards. I wouldn’t mention the humanities awards unless they were super huge(something that only a few people get internationally) because SSP is a science oriented camp and winning awards in humanities to strengthen your app just doesn’t make sense.But this is what I think. In the end, do what you want to do.

Hi guys! I have two sets of SAT I scores, but the math section score is greater in one set and the Critical Reading score is greater in the other. I don’t want to send in boh reports, because I feel the lower Critical Reading score is waaay too low for SSP and I don’t know…I just don’t feel really proud about it.

What do you think?

Do you think it would be ok to send the full score report of the one with higher reading score and just the paper with the math score from the other SAT session?

SSP says they “require your scores from any and all of the following standardized tests…”. That means they want to see everything and do not expect you to mix and match as I interpret that to mean.

@mumbai98 thanks for the advice! i’m thinking about including both the humanities and science awards tho because the humanities awards fit in with one of my answers to the essays and i don’t want to waste too many words elaborating on what i’ve accomplished. but yeah, thanks for the help!

I wonder why did they chose such a remote locations that is so difficult to get there.

^^ Darker skies. Also, higher altitude means less atmosphere to look through. I always wondered about the seeing at Westmont. Relatively nice telescope and campus, but evening fog is quite possible and it’s basically at sea level.

Also, I wouldn’t call Boulder that remote. It’s less than an hour from the Denver airport.

Sorry for the radio silence everyone! I’ve been wanting to come back and answer questions but scholarship applications are quite a pain.

@alzhao‌ I would get a paper copy just in case, unless your teacher has already received confirmation that SSP has gotten your letter. When I applied, my recommenders gave me their letters in sealed envelopes with their signatures on the flap to show that the seal hadn’t been broken. I included that in my entire package.

@derylshort‌ I personally find it better to talk about one accomplishment. It shows your dedication more clearly and will give you more space to talk about the activity’s impact/value to you. This, of course, depends on what you plan on talking about. I wouldn’t just cram in a bunch of things in order to seem better or more impressive. Try and fit those in elsewhere if you can.

@kkpanu9‌ Getting into SSP is difficult as a sophomore is difficult (as @araethusa‌ mentioned above, there were only 4 out of the 72 total), but I imagine it can be even more difficult to be a rising junior at the program. Mentally, you’re in a different place than rising seniors. This isn’t a comment on intellect (I’m good friends with the girl from my campus who was admitted as a sophomore and she is absolutely brilliant) but more so about the fact that rising seniors have another year’s experience with school/activities/life and are also prepping for college.

@bernoulli521 As far as I know, you don’t have to include full score reports when sending scores to SSP. When I sent in scores, I took screenshots and made sure they included my name. However, I only submitted my PSAT so it may be different. If it’s a financial obstacle, I doubt SSP would want you to have to spend the money to send both of the score reports. Email them to make sure though!

@seal16‌ As @Ynotgo‌ mentioned, dark skies are a big deal. I was not at Westmont but I do imagine humidity was more of a factor for them. Surprisingly, we had to contend with clouds in Socorro too; the rainy season in New Mexico starts in early/mid July and there were several nights when observing groups were rained out of the observatory.

It also has to do with what facilities are available. New Mexico Tech is in a fairly remote area, but that meant that we were basically the only group on campus (give or take a few that stayed for a week or so) so we had free reign. We could stay outside late and spread out across the campus without worrying too much about disturbing others or being unsafe. Very few locations across the US that have good seeing also allow for such freedom for the students, and for that I am extremely grateful to NM Tech.

Also, neither campuses are really that far out of the way. Boulder is a fairly large city in Colorado as far as I know and Socorro is an hour south of ABQ. Transportation is provided to and from the airport/any field trips so the locations (besides flight-wise I guess) are sort of irrelevant during the program.

Do you guy know if questions 6-8 are supposed to be short answers? I feel like I can write an essay (300 words ish) on just number 6 in itself >_<…

Should I just consider not applying. I don’t really want to do all the essays and the rest of the application if I don’t have a chance of getting in. Plus, even if I get in I am going to have to convince my parents to let me skip the family trip to India, and the $4,500 fee is pretty hefty. Also, I’m most likely not going to get any financial aid.

For question #8 (Have you ever been suspended or subjected to any school or legal disciplinary action?), should I put down something that happened in middle school, or is it just asking for high school?

Hey guys! I’ve been hesitating and procrastinating with my application and just started the essays yesterday…
Anyways, for the science recommendation, should I give it to my AP Bio or AP Physics I teacher? I’m a much, much stronger biology student than I am physics i.e. I get A+s on AP Bio tests while I get Bs on AP Physics tests (after test corrections, before corrections would be in the 50s).

@EveningSwan‌

Why would anyone tell you to get your recomendation from a teacher whose class you do poorly in?

@kkpanu9‌ Okay, I was just wondering if it would be better to have a rec from a physics teacher rather than a bio teacher because the program focuses more on physics.

Gonna have to repeat le question:

Do you guy know if questions 6-8 are supposed to be short answers, especially 6?